FERMENTED FEEDS...anyone using them?

[Tikkijane]

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[Archie.girl" url="/t/645057/fermented-feeds-anyone-using-them/2430#post_12926746"]I have heard of lots of "different" treatments for autoimmune...  Arthritis I believe is an Autoimmune disease...  Bee sting is one.... Matter of fact I was driving down the road coming home from my house.... On the free way .... nice spring day kind of warm had the window open....  when I hit a swarm of honey bees making their way across the freeway.  About a hundred were sucked in my windo and pelted me.  I felt several light stings through my clothing.  Now I am not alergic but I got worried over the fact that there were so many that it might cause me to go into shock.

I pulled off the freeway on an off ramp and parked at the cul desac at the intersection...  This was on The La Posta Indian REservation.  I jumped out of my truck walked behind it and whipped off my shirt.  about twenty dead bees fell out....  Couple of cars drove by....  I figured they would look but not for long.... LOL..  Felt the shirt all over no stingers....  put it back on.  My arms had a couple of red spots but that was all I could find.  there was another set of bees in the truck.  All dead.  I swooshed them out.

I guess the point is....  All the next day and for most of the next My Arthritis pain was diminished by half.  Psychosematic... Probably...  But it was a great relief.

I have a similar view toward religion as you. 

deb

That is not in your head. Bee juices a viable therapy. Bee venom therapy is good stuff, imo. They use it to treat MS, RA; I've read about some good sucess with Fibro, even.

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[22qZoo]

I like to put DE in my horses stock tank and the kiddie pool that I use for the 2 geese. It stays fresher longer and doesn't get as scummy. I put it in the areas where the chickens do their dusting. We had a horrible millepede out break two years in a row, it was so gross! They were EVERYWHERE . Tried the regular bug killer stuff from the hardware store,nothing worked till we used the DE. Handy to have around.

 

[kpgoldstar]

My continuing egg saga... my sitters were getting an egg in the morning (which I have NEVER had) and a couple in the evening. We got home from a couple days away Friday evening and found 2 eggs! One in the nest box and one under the roost. This morning I went out to feed breakfast hoping to find that elusive morning egg. NOPE! I didn't get one. But then I went out again around 10 before I had to leave for town and there it was! A morning egg!

The best part of the story though is we got home around 4:00 today and wouldn't you know it?? There were THREE eggs in the nest boxes!! WOOOHOOO!! That means all 4 of my girls are now laying. One of them for sure was a first egg, just as small as the other first eggs we've gotten so far. Well, of course that is assuming that no one laid 2 eggs today LOL!

 

[Beekissed]

for eggs! Congrats! Nice looking, uniform eggs...love it!

 

[kpgoldstar]

for eggs! Congrats! Nice looking, uniform eggs...love it!

I credit FF for my super happy healthy girls and their laying at 21 weeks instead of 25-26. When I bought my chicks in October I was content to wait until mid March for eggs. What a surprise to have them laying nearly a month early. I don't know if FF had anything to do with the early laying or if they are "production reds" from the hatchery. Either way, I just know my very small flock are thriving with their feed program and now that they are becoming young ladies vs. teenage hoodlums they are much more mellow, not attacking the feed trough as if they are starving. Such a pleasure to have watched them from babies to laying hens. I thank them every time I gather!

 

[Ariel188]

Hello,

I have been researching FF and I have a question. I mix my own chicken feed with the following ORGANIC grains and seeds. Do you think this mix would ferment well with ACV? Thank you.

3 Cups soft white wheat
3 Cups hard red wheat
1 Cup kumut
1 Cup quinoa
1 Cup barley
1 Cup millet
1 Cup oat groats
2 Cups sunflower seeds
1 Cup split green peas
1 Cup lentils
1 Cup sesame seeds
1/2 Cup flax seed
1 Cup ground seaweed

 

[luvblues7]

My continuing egg saga... my sitters were getting an egg in the morning (which I have NEVER had) and a couple in the evening. We got home from a couple days away Friday evening and found 2 eggs! One in the nest box and one under the roost. This morning I went out to feed breakfast hoping to find that elusive morning egg. NOPE! I didn't get one. But then I went out again around 10 before I had to leave for town and there it was! A morning egg! The best part of the story though is we got home around 4:00 today and wouldn't you know it?? There were THREE eggs in the nest boxes!! WOOOHOOO!! That means all 4 of my girls are now laying. One of them for sure was a first egg, just as small as the other first eggs we've gotten so far. Well, of course that is assuming that no one laid 2 eggs today LOL!

Makes me want to get on my Goldwing and come to Arizona and give you High Fives. LOL. There's just ain't nothing like eating your own fresh lain eggs. So happy for you.

 

[Beekissed]

Hello,

I have been researching FF and I have a question. I mix my own chicken feed with the following ORGANIC grains and seeds. Do you think this mix would ferment well with ACV? Thank you.

3 Cups soft white wheat
3 Cups hard red wheat
1 Cup kumut
1 Cup quinoa
1 Cup barley
1 Cup millet
1 Cup oat groats
2 Cups sunflower seeds
1 Cup split green peas
1 Cup lentils
1 Cup sesame seeds
1/2 Cup flax seed
1 Cup ground seaweed

Yep!

 

[ChickenCanoe]

So what food grade use do you have for DE? I'm not sure I want the skeletons of minuscule sea life in/near my food at all. Not making fun, it just made me blink and do a double-take.

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I don't use it in feed. Some people do and claim, anecdotally, it has benefits. However, I sprinkle it in bedding, nesting material and on roosts. Therefor, since ingestion is possible, it needs to be food grade.

It is approved by the United States Department of Agriculture as a feed supplement to prevent caking.

For what its worth the first step in making Vinegar is Alcahol. Alcahol occures in nature.... Have you ever seen birds staggering about under a Peach tree whos fruit has gone over..... LOL... they are drunk.

deb

I've been to several butterfly farms. They leave fruit out on feeding platforms. The butterflies that feed there a while become drunk.

 

[neopolitancrazy]

I credit FF for my super happy healthy girls and their laying at 21 weeks instead of 25-26. When I bought my chicks in October I was content to wait until mid March for eggs. What a surprise to have them laying nearly a month early. I don't know if FF had anything to do with the early laying or if they are "production reds" from the hatchery.

I am very happy with my chicken's vigor and vitality on FF, too! I have birds purchased as adults from a recognized, respected breeder, and birds purchased as day-olds from a hatchery. The adult birds took a while to convince that the weird muck in their trough was good feed, lol.

I don't want to rain on your parade, but unless you obtained your chicks from someone who places well at APA judged chicken shows, your pullets are almost certainly production reds, bred to come into lay at 16-20 weeks of age. If you would like to see the difference between heritage RIR and production reds, goto the Heritage Large Fowl thread, phase 1 on byc, for photos and descriptions of the differences, towards the beginning of the thread.

Best wishes, and happy chicken-keeping!
Angela