Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[pichuris]

I will have to check on that. I ordered it through my feed store, his prices are generally the best in my area, but he said something about there being a poor harvest this year?

Well I know here in Colorado we had a continuous bad drought and feed prices keep going up. So yes another poor harvest year. Boooo!

 

[pichuris]

Yeah, don't get me started on what people call emergencies and non-emergencies. People dial 911 because of really dumb stuff like about their dental insurance. Or you get someone calling a non-emergency number and someone got shot. I just don't understand.

 

[Pozees]

I love your attitude towards parenting. I am exactly like that with my nephew, and so is my brother. Saw him wipe out really good the other week while carrying a basket of eggs to the house. Real bad wipe out. I flinched but did not react. Kids usually cry when they see their parents reactions, or if they really hurt. Most times it just scares them.
I have seen his mother watch him fall and scoop him up and "oh baby baby.. it's okay" him. I just don't see what the point of that is

Oh yes.. I do agree with that about the co-workers. The worst cases are usually when the entire staff is female. I do book-keeping for orthodontic clinics. The girls there... Let's just leave it at that..

So so so true! If you happen to be looking when a kid falls, the first thing you see is eyes to Mom or Dad, to decide what to do. If Mom or Dad gets upset, the kid cries. If they say a lighthearted, "Whoops!" the kid gets up and is on his or her way. Observed this exact behavior in my son and his playmates throughout his childhood.

Female coworkers - I currently work in a small office where it is usually only me and one other woman who is as much a tomboy as I am, and our DHs are very much alike, and we get along fabulously well (thank goodness). In a previous job I worked in an office of 12 women, and it was the absolute worst. I never knew women could be so mean. I mean, grown women. High School girls are meaner than boys when they get mad - in yet another job I was a road supervisor for a school bus company, and going to a fight on a school bus where it was two boys fighting was saving them from actually having to hit one another; two girls constituted a true emergency. Worst fights ever.

 

[aoxa]

Okay so all my FF in the feeders are freezing overnight (I put down feed at night when I get off work - should last them until late morning and I repeat the following day). I don't have time in the morning to do it all. Though my bucket (trash can) that keeps the FF never freezes, and it was -25 this morning!

The birds still eat the frozen food. Though very slowly.

It generally doesn't get much colder on average. We do get colder days/nights, but this is about average temps for January. Today it's a high of -7.

Now for the water.. I have no idea what to do with my biggest one. The cookie tin heaters I made don't fit the base of it :/

 

[Pozees]

Y'know, there was an old man that used to attend the church I went to. Everybody would always shake hands and ask "how ya doin?" The majority of them didn't listen for an answer, just went on to greet the next person. Well, this old man, when he asked "how ya doin?" He actually waited for you to answer and genuinely CARED how I was doing. After he died, that was the thing that I recalled about him that I liked the most. He cared.

If you don't care how someone is doing, don't ask. I'm sure there is something else you could think up to say that wouldn't require any commitment.

I'm not trying to start a fight, and I don't like whiners either. I am not one. But it is really nice, and rare, to encounter someone who means what they say.

Nice indeed, and sad that it is rare.

 

[aoxa]

Y'know, there was an old man that used to attend the church I went to.  Everybody would always shake hands and ask "how ya doin?"  The majority of them didn't listen for an answer, just went on to greet the next person.  Well, this old man, when he asked "how ya doin?"  He actually waited for you to answer and genuinely CARED how I was doing.  After he died, that was the thing that I recalled about him that I liked the most.  He cared. 

If you don't care how someone is doing, don't ask.  I'm sure there is something else you could think up to say that wouldn't require any commitment. 

I'm not trying to start a fight, and I don't like whiners either.  I am not one.  But it is really nice, and rare, to encounter someone who means what they say.

Nice indeed, and sad that it is rare.

What I was saying is that it is rude to go on about how awful your life is when someone asks you this. You can tell me all the positive things - but when I ask you how you are, I don't want to hear about health problems and gossip. That is what I was talking about.

It's very nice that he cared.

 

[Pozees]

What I was saying is that it is rude to go on about how awful your life is when someone asks you this. You can tell me all the positive things - but when I ask you how you are, I don't want to hear about health problems and gossip. That is what I was talking about.
It's very nice that he cared.

Oh I understood, sorry, this was no disrespect to you, just a comment to Lacy Blue that it is rare to meet people who don't know you very well, who actually want to know the true answers to their questions. I have actually been trying to remind myself to say, "How nice to see you!" instead of, "How are you?" - which is totally true, I'm happy to see people I know, and got caught in some extended conversations I simply didn't have time for when asking how people were.

I guess I'm some weird hybrid sort of person - I genuinely like people, I just don't want to spend all my time with them. When I leave work I don't want to go socialize, I want to come home, see the biddies and the kitties and DH, and get my chores done.

 

[Pozees]

Okay so all my FF in the feeders are freezing overnight (I put down feed at night when I get off work - should last them until late morning and I repeat the following day). I don't have time in the morning to do it all. Though my bucket (trash can) that keeps the FF never freezes, and it was -25 this morning!

The birds still eat the frozen food. Though very slowly.
It generally doesn't get much colder on average. We do get colder days/nights, but this is about average temps for January. Today it's a high of -7.
Now for the water.. I have no idea what to do with my biggest one. The cookie tin heaters I made don't fit the base of it

It's actually good to know they will still eat it frozen, I wasn't sure. Maybe replace the big waterer with a couple of smaller ones that fit the cookie tins until it warms up?

 

[armorfirelady]

Okay so all my FF in the feeders are freezing overnight (I put down feed at night when I get off work - should last them until late morning and I repeat the following day). I don't have time in the morning to do it all. Though my bucket (trash can) that keeps the FF never freezes, and it was -25 this morning!

The birds still eat the frozen food. Though very slowly.

It generally doesn't get much colder on average. We do get colder days/nights, but this is about average temps for January. Today it's a high of -7.

Now for the water.. I have no idea what to do with my biggest one. The cookie tin heaters I made don't fit the base of it

Heated dog bowl for the feeders maybe? Or heating tape you can cover so the birds dont peck it? I have seen people who use bird bath heaters in their larger waterers. Perhaps that would work for you? Also I am guessing that its the cooking of the FF along with the ACV that is preventing the freezing of your trash can. My mom keeps a gallon of vinegar in her car all winter & it never freezes.....must be someting in the vinegar. I am guessing if the FF was more liquid form with higher vinergar in it the freezing wouldnt occur but I dont think the hens would eat it either. I keep an extra bottle of water with heavy dose of ACV in it for my waterer and it hasnt froze yet either. Just my 2 cents

You can keep your cold weather though

I like the change of seasons here but we rarely get under 0F and I am ok with that

But I def will see what birds you have when I get more in the spring since I know they are VERY cold tolerant

 

[aoxa]

What I was saying is that it is rude to go on about how awful your life is when someone asks you this. You can tell me all the positive things - but when I ask you how you are, I don't want to hear about health problems and gossip. That is what I was talking about.

It's very nice that he cared.

Oh I understood, sorry, this was no disrespect to you, just a comment to Lacy Blue that it is rare to meet people who don't know you very well, who actually want to know the true answers to their questions.  I have actually been trying to remind myself to say, "How nice to see you!" instead of, "How are you?" - which is totally true, I'm happy to see people I know, and got caught in some extended conversations I simply didn't have time for when asking how people were.

I guess I'm some weird hybrid sort of person - I genuinely like people, I just don't want to spend all my time with them.  When I leave work I don't want to go socialize, I want to come home, see the biddies and the kitties and DH, and get my chores done.

I didn't mean to address this to you Pozees I was talking to Lacy Blue, but didn't feel like going to find the original post to quote her

Sorry!

That man sounds like a very nice person.

I like how you say how nice to see you. Good tip!