Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[Triple Willow]

I have seen a lot of threads on here concerning coccidiosis. Can some of you guys with a lot of experience give me a link or point me in the direction of some actualy useful information about cocci? I sure would appreciate it. Even better, if some folks with experience would even start a thread with actual useful information (if there isn't one already).

Thanks

 

[Beekissed]

Bee have you or do you know of anyone that has had eye worms happen to their chicks or chickens since eating ff?

I've never heard, personally, of anyone's chickens having eye worms, though I've seen it on YT. There would be no connection at all between feeding fermented feeds and eye worms....are yours having this, Rose?

 

[RoseMarie1]

Nope never in there year I have been raising chickens. And my yard is known as *Lake Schaefer* when we get a lot of rain. I have a low spot that runs from the front of the property to the back. When we had all that rain for almost a month straight it was the largest ever. I even had to move the coop. A lot of mosquitoes around but havent had a problem.

Im sure some were bitten as their coop even on higher ground is near where the sitting water was.

My plan is to hand dig a trench to take the water away from here.

yeah that's what hubby did with ours on the trench because the water was running right down through the middle of their pen when it would rain. The land slopes toward the pen. So he did a trench and it's working. I just have to clean it out every now and then because they fill it up with leaves or pine straw with their rooting around. lol

 

[RoseMarie1]

I've never heard, personally, of anyone's chickens having eye worms, though I've seen it on YT. There would be no connection at all between feeding fermented feeds and eye worms....are yours having this, Rose?

No Bee, I am a member of a facebook page and someones chicken has this. They showed a pic of the eye and asked what was it and several people told them it was an eye worm and how to treat it. I was just curious because from my googling this subject and reading about it, the roach eats their poop, then they eat the roach and if it has the larvae in it the worms hatch and go up through their mouth into their eye and embed If I have that right. Was just wondering IF the eggs would even survive with a good probiotic gut of FF. Here it is, I'll just cut and paste the info cuz I just know I have it wrong here with this poor memory of mine......


Eye worms have an indirect cycle
Worm eggs deposited in the eye pass into the tear duct, are swallowed by the chicken and expelled in droppings, and are eaten the Surinam cockroach

When a chicken eats an infective cockroach, worm larvae migrate up the esophageus to the mouth, through the tear duct, and into the eye
Wild birds are also infected by eye worm and may help spread it to chicken flocks

Controlling cockroaches around the hen house controls eye worm....... end quote.....


NOW HOW would one go about controlling them and not hurt the chickens? My pen was empty of ducks for many years and they still survived out there so I have them in my pen and would love to get rid of the things because they're so nasty to me. But don't want to harm my chicks either!

 

[RoseMarie1]

I have seen a lot of threads on here concerning coccidiosis. Can some of you guys with a lot of experience give me a link or point me in the direction of some actualy useful information about cocci? I sure would appreciate it. Even better, if some folks with experience would even start a thread with actual useful information (if there isn't one already).

Thanks

Here ya go..... sure hope yours doesn't have this.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/newsearch?search=coccidiosis

 

[RoseMarie1]

anyone?

I've posted a pic on here of my trough feeder and several others have posted feeder pix as well on here. I use a vinyl gutter that I cut, put legs on it with short pieces of landscaping timbers I had on hand. Then I put a board on each end of it to hold the poultry wire over the length of it so they can't get inside. Although I still have one that is smaller than the others that still has managed to get inside! BUT I think I solved that when I lifted the feeder up some. I hope so anyway.

 

[RoseMarie1]

LOL "all this extra feeding stuff" as DH puts it has saved a ton of $$$ and he is seeing it now. He told me we can get another free office trailer by just hauling it off. this makes the 3rd one we have picked up now. A major construction co we have in this area offers them occasionally, they are huge, 40-50 feet long by 10 ft wide. We paint them, repair what needs done, and use them as storage, etc. He has one for a workshop, now i get one for my "feeding stuff" hehe! I can do my mealworms, fodder and feeds all in there. oh, and a hatching room too, and maybe a quarantine room! Can't wait to get it here and set up.

OH MAN how nice!!!! Wish I could get my hands on a couple those.

 

[Beekissed]

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Rose, from everything I've read, the FF will create an acid environment in the intestines that is hostile to intestinal parasites, so it just may help with this. I wouldn't wonder about all that too much...I've never really seen anything like that in flocks, so it is probably pretty rare.

Just have faith....do the best you can and let God handle the rest! From what I understand, it's nigh impossible to get rid of roaches without covering everything with multiple treatments of poison, boric acid, DE, etc. and even then you simply cannot kill every cockroach...one pregnant one would start the cycle all over again and you'd have to poison again~particularly in an outside setting and in a run as big as yours.

No worries!

 

[Triple Willow]

Here ya go..... sure hope yours doesn't have this.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/newsearch?search=coccidiosis

Thank you very much RoseMarie, but that is a link to 190+ pages containing 4,900+ threads about cocci. I was hoping to wade through all the misinformation and find out the facts. But thank you very much.

 

[Debs55]

I started FF 2 days ago and I've had 3 hens die since then...not saying that that is the reason. But I'm going to treat with corid and I was wondering if I should continue the FF or stop? Also one of the dead hens seemed to have sour crop. Could FF cause that?