Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[wingstone]

When you young folks get older and lose your grip, your hip, your knee and somedays your pee - you will be so glad to get that help! LOL

This is so true, and I still insist on doing things myself, then complain later when the hip and knee want to go in opposite directions

 

[bruceh]

this subject is sensitive to women of all ages. why i don't know. a gentleman should and always will ask a woman if she needs help. it is not about can i get in your pants type of behavior. it is a respectful gesture.
a true gentleman of a younger stature will also ask an older gentleman if they can help.
i do this all the time. i do it at the mill , tsc, and the grocery store.

 

[bruceh]

This is so true, and I still insist on doing things myself, then complain later when the hip and knee want to go in opposite directions

hi wingy

 

[7acres]

this subject is sensitive to women of all ages. why i don't know. a gentleman should and always will ask a woman if she needs help. it is not about can i get in your pants type of behavior. it is a respectful gesture.
a true gentleman of a younger stature will also ask an older gentleman if they can help.
i do this all the time. i do it at the mill , tsc, and the grocery store.

Very well said. It is a battle of values. When my mother worked in the fields, cared for livestock and split wood, she would have been glad to have an offer of help. It is not a sign of disrespect when someone offers to help. Male or female. When a woman offers to help me, I say yes and appreciate it. I do not feel that they think I cannot do something, but they are caring people. When you reject assistance you taking away the feeling of satisfaction that comes from helping another human. If you refuse my assistance, I will not be offended. But if you don't mind you may help me when you are finished. I would enjoy the conversation.

 

[TexasLisa]

Bruce, it isn't a sensitive subject with me. I always thank the gentleman who opens the door or helps me with packages. I keep an eye out for those who need assistance. I love it when people go out of their way to help.

I think a lot of us grew up being independent. We don't wait for others to do things for us. We just do it. I know I would be lost without my husband but would like to think I can run things around here if something happened to him.

You and others have been raised right. Keep on doing it.

Lisa

 

[Beekissed]

this subject is sensitive to women of all ages. why i don't know. a gentleman should and always will ask a woman if she needs help. it is not about can i get in your pants type of behavior. it is a respectful gesture. 
a true gentleman of a younger stature will also ask an older gentleman if they can help.
i do this all the time. i do it at the mill , tsc, and the grocery store.

Amen and absolutely! I like to encourage that behavior in men because it is a dying and rare thing, common courtesy. My own boys are taught to do the same behavior and were taught that women are to be cherished and treated with respect and deference. That's been hard to instill in them when they have a mother~and a grandmother~ they have seen doing all the rough stuff with ease and so they take it for granted that women don't need help nor should they expect it...that's been a hard thing to drill into their heads that my situation is not normal and that I, too, would have loved to have been shown respect and consideration in that manner if I had a man around all those years.

It doesn't take anything away from my abilities, but merely adds to them the fact that, though I am capable, I shouldn't have to prove it in all things and in all ways every day. No more than a man should have to prove that he can cook and care for himself when I woman is handy to do such things...knowing how and being capable is one thing, but mutual respect and caring quite another and this too should be a part of interaction between men and women. Even strangers at the feed store..we all have roles in which we excel and those lines can and must be crossed out of sheer necessity every day...but when it's presented to us that a man built for heavy lifting wants to indeed use his build for doing that very thing, I encourage it.

Call me old fashioned but I still value gender roles, not as an absolute, but as a privilege.

 

[Triple Willow]

I never turn down help from the feed store guys...I've not had a man helping me out in this life, so all heavy things, all things to be built and all things period have been done by me~until I could get my boys big enough and trained up to assist. Now they are grown and gone, though. To get an offer of help from a man is a rare and most exceedingly wonderful thing, so I'll take it when I can get it! I can lift it..that's nothing I have to prove anymore.

It's the fact that they offer and I accept gracefully, with thankfulness that there was ever an offer that matters to me. I take it as no slur on my abilities...anyone can take one look at me and know I am no sissy and look a little further at what I drive and realize I'm not the average, delicate woman...just a farm woman. Plain and simple.

I usually have guys at the feed store asking me about how I rigged up my truck for the knocked down cattle panels that I scavenged and exclaiming over the innovative way I solved the problem of mounting them on the truck. They know me and they know where I live...and they have no doubts about my abilities to do man stuff. That's the beauty of living in a small, rural setting...

When they offer to carry MY feed...it's a sign of respect for the woman who doesn't really HAVE to ask for help. I take it as my due and carry on, thank the guys, smile and wave...they know full well that at the other end of my journey I'll be the one hefting that 100lb sack of feed into the feed barrels.

DittoX1,000!
I grew up a tomboy as tough as any boy in the community. I rode horses, motorcycles, hunted, fished, played all the sports with the boys (not the girls). I have worked on a beef farm, dairy farm, veal calf farm, horse farm, etc. I did all the work that the guys did, got no special treatment because I was a girl. I was always very fond of men but I had the attitude that "I don't NEED a man." As I got older I realized AND ACCEPTED that in some things men have their place and women have theirs. When they can work *together* things work so beautifully! I spent most of my years with guy friends and boyfriends here and there but never anything too serious. One of my old bosses told me that I intimidated men. Well that wasn't my intent, but oh well. You narrow the field when guys think you might can out do them in a lot of things. Then several years ago I met the man I am with now. He's not intimidated by much of anything, seriously. He can handle me just fine! LOL And oh thank God, he is a big ol' feller with big ol' muscles! God is good! LOL I go to lift or do something that I would normally do and he hollers for me to hang on and let him do it before I hurt myself. "Well yes sir" - I step back and let him do it. Every now and then we butt heads on something and I have to ask him "WHO do you think did ALL OF THIS before you came along!" LOL No doubt if I had taken better care of myself all those years I wouldn't be having all the joint problems I have now. Live and learn! ...but you're better off to do the opposite, learn then live.

I've asked a couple of those cute feed store boys to come and help me unload that feed at home. All I get out of them is a great big smile. I think they must have thought I had some other kind of work in mind for them! LOL That's one of the perks of getting a little older, you can get by with a lot of flirting. hahaha

 

[Beekissed]

Exactly! And I have been told countless times that I intimidate men, though I never set out to do that at all. I am just living my life and doing what needs to be done but a lot of fellas feel threatened by an independent woman. That's THEIR problem, not mine. If they would step up, I could step down...or step to one side and work side by side as a partner.

 

[chubbiechicken]

Can anyone answer this question on BOSS when you ferment your feed does it all float to the top?

 

[Beekissed]

Yep..pretty much. Eventually it will sink as the mix dries out and is stirred all week, but initially it floats. No worries.