Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

So you know how they have the milk commercials with milk moustaches? Well I have one for FF
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Girls were enjoying their dinner last night. It was a little dryer than usual because I had added more food but it certainly did not slow them down. Just made it stickier to their beaks
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So you know how they have the milk commercials with milk moustaches? Well I have one for FF :D Girls were enjoying their dinner last night. It was a little dryer than usual because I had added more food but it certainly did not slow them down. Just made it stickier to their beaks :p
HA! That's funny! They look like some ladies having a deep conversation. lol The other day my rooster had it on his wattles, gross! lol
 
Oh, I had no intention at all to go through all of that for water.  I was only concerned with my feed barn/grow room.

Thanks to Triple Willow and mlowen for the links.  I'll be checking those out!

I don't have access to feed with animal protein.  Nor am I blessed with green grass and acres upon acres of forest surrounding me.  I live in a barren, bleak desert with scrub brush and tumbleweeds.  We have stray dogs, coyotes, skunks, and hawks to contend with so my birds are all penned.  Therefore, the only bugs they get are the ones that make the mistake of entering their domain.  We do get grasshoppers every year (though I can't for the life of me imagine what they eat) so if I could get a nice fodder plot going, maybe my birds might get something close to a natural diet because whatever that is will have to come from me as God did not create this place with chickens in mind. 

I am researching natural forage stuff for around here.  The local extension office is partnered with someone (I forget the name) who is concerned about re-forestation (for lack of a better word) of local wild plant material for the sage grouse around here.  I figure they're probably cousins to the chicken so I will be picking this guy's brain for the best plants that will do well here.  Also learned about some alternate forage crops (alternates to alfalfa and corn) which are typically grown here.  Teff does very well, as does guar and fodder soy.  I need to research the fodder soy though and see how it compares to the regular soy.  I don't want that stuff and hopefully this fodder soy isn't like that.

I watched a video of Allan Savory talking about desertification a couple weeks ago. I tell you, it was very interesting and the man is definitely on to something. He says that it is actually the lack of grazing that causes the problem. I think if people would listen to him it would help solve a lot of problems. It would be great if Savory was the man that your extension office was partnering with.

http://www.ted.com/speakers/allan_savory.html
 
I get ACV, but what is UP? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer lol. And is a "couple of glugs" a technical term for measurement? No really what is UP and where would one get unpastureized vinegar, uhh... is up/acv unpastureized apple cider vinegar? Light bulb....

Walt
 
I get ACV, but what is UP? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer lol. And is a "couple of glugs" a technical term for measurement? No really what is UP and where would one get unpastureized vinegar, uhh... is up/acv unpastureized apple cider vinegar? Light bulb....

Walt
Howdy Walt! I think you figured it out! You get ACV (with the mother )at the store. People usually buy Bragg's ACV and I understand Walmart just came out with their own brand. We also have people on this forum who make their own ACV.

By the way, Welcome aboard!

Lisa :)
 
I get ACV, but what is UP? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer lol. And is a "couple of glugs" a technical term for measurement? No really what is UP and where would one get unpastureized vinegar, uhh... is up/acv unpastureized apple cider vinegar? Light bulb....

Walt


Have you ever poured liquid from a jug? In the time it takes for the jug to make a glug sound a certain amount of liquid has come out...so, yes, it is an unit of measurement.
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By sheer deduction, you can then determine that a glorp is bigger than a glug and a glug is more than a splash. It's a country thing...many in the city would not understand the reference, I'm thinking. It's along the same lines as using a pinch, a dash, a smatter, or smidge.

Yes...your light bulb is working properly, that is what UP means when used in conjunction with ACV.
 
Have you ever poured liquid from a jug?  In the time it takes for the jug to make a glug sound a certain amount of liquid has come out...so, yes, it is an unit of measurement.  :D   By sheer deduction, you can then determine that a glorp is bigger than a glug and a glug is more than a splash.  It's a country thing...many in the city would not understand the reference, I'm thinking.  It's along the same lines as using a pinch, a dash, a smatter, or smidge. 

Yes...your light bulb is working properly, that is what UP means when used in conjunction with ACV. 

Wouldn't the volume of that "glug" depend on the size of the spout it is "glugging from" ...and the volume of liquid left in the jug/bottle??? LOL
 
I get ACV, but what is UP? I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer lol. And is a "couple of glugs" a technical term for measurement? No really what is UP and where would one get unpastureized vinegar, uhh... is up/acv unpastureized apple cider vinegar?  Light bulb....

Walt

Hey Walt! :) I don't know about the other brands but that Braggs vinegar gets expensive. You can buy a gallon of regular cheapo apple cider vineger and pour about a cup of the good unpasteurized vinegar in it and in about a month the cheapo stuff will have the "mother" grown in it too. Be sure to give the bottle a little shake to get the "mother" stirred up.
 
Wouldn't the volume of that "glug" depend on the size of the spout it is "glugging from" ...and the volume of liquid left in the jug/bottle??? LOL

It's all proportionate, true. But not so much dependent upon how much is left in the bottle.

The whole point being...don't get wrapped up in measurements as they mean very little in the real world of chicken care. It's just not important.
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