Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

Well...spent the afternoon in the pouring rain constructing a temporary holding pen for these soup roos. It looks like a hillbilly rig but it will keep them dry and shaded on one end and out in the sunshine and on some grass in the other end. It's about 1/3 the size of their usual run so they aren't losing out by much. Three of them had lice..the older rooster was just eaten UP with them and some parts of his reddened, bare skin was bloody from it all. Three had scale mites. One of the roos was a hen...HUGE and heavy, she looks to have some WR in her breeding,whatever that was! To our credit she had so little feathering and was so very big, we mistook her for a rooster in the dark of the coop. She's older and not laying, so she too will be soup.

And, to no surprise, the brattiest one of the bunch to handle and treat was the silkie...
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Had scale mites in those darn ugly feet of his, so his dirty little feathery feet now are coated and slathered in castor oil.

When I called the lady to tell her I had one of her hens and to tell her about the infestations, she was shocked that she had these parasites and wanted to know what to do for them. She's had chickens for 5 years in these conditions and has acquired chickens from other flocks just willy nilly, so who knows how long these birds have suffered? This...right here...this scenario is what I see on this forum over and over and wherever I go and for some reason no one seems to think this is animal abuse or neglect, but you leave a dog outdoors for the winter and they will call the humane society on you so fast it'll make yer head spin.

Don't mean to get my panties in a wad but these are the same type of people who claim they cannot kill their own chickens because they just have too tender of a heart. Over and over I hear that same song...I can't kill my babies, but I can sure leave them in a dirty, poopy run and coop that's too small. I can not ever ~in fact, I won't even try to educate myself on how to do so until it's too late~try to manage their health... but I can sure throw the feed down so they are really, really fat because that equals good care. I can leave them to be eaten alive by parasites from the outside and inside but kill them? I could NEVER do that? Oh, how do you DO that? (insert whine here that implies those who kill chickens are some kind of cold blooded murderers)

Sorry...rant over. Didn't mean to step off the deep end on y'all but sometimes my soul cries out for understanding of this horrible new society who doesn't seem to understand the definition of love.
 
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Well...spent the afternoon in the pouring rain constructing a temporary holding pen for these soup roos. It looks like a hillbilly rig but it will keep them dry and shaded on one end and out in the sunshine and on some grass in the other end. It's about 1/3 the size of their usual run so they aren't losing out by much. Three of them had lice..the older rooster was just eaten UP with them and some parts of his reddened, bare skin was bloody from it all. Three had scale mites. One of the roos was a hen...HUGE and heavy, she looks to have some WR in her breeding,whatever that was! To our credit she had so little feathering and was so very big, we mistook her for a rooster in the dark of the coop. She's older and not laying, so she too will be soup.

And, to no surprise, the brattiest one of the bunch to handle and treat was the silkie...
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Had scale mites in those darn ugly feet of his, so his dirty little feathery feet now are coated and slathered in castor oil.

When I called the lady to tell her I had one of her hens and to tell her about the infestations, she was shocked that she had these parasites and wanted to know what to do for them. She's had chickens for 5 years in these conditions and has acquired chickens from other flocks just willy nilly, so who knows how long these birds have suffered? This...right here...this scenario is what I see on this forum over and over and wherever I go and for some reason no one seems to think this is animal abuse or neglect, but you leave a dog outdoors for the winter and they will call the humane society on you so fast it'll make yer head spin.

Don't mean to get my panties in a wad but these are the same type of people who claim they cannot kill their own chickens because they just have too tender of a heart. Over and over I hear that same song...I can't kill my babies, but I can sure leave them in a dirty, poopy run and coop that's too small. I can not ever ~in fact, I won't even try to educate myself on how to do so until it's too late~try to manage their health... but I can sure throw the feed down so they are really, really fat because that equals good care. I can leave them to be eaten alive by parasites from the outside and inside but kill them? I could NEVER do that? Oh, how do you DO that? (insert whine here that implies those who kill chickens are some kind of cold blooded murderers)

Sorry...rant over. Didn't mean to step off the deep end on y'all but sometimes my soul cries out for understanding of this horrible new society who doesn't seem to understand the definition of love.

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Well...spent the afternoon in the pouring rain constructing a temporary holding pen for these soup roos. It looks like a hillbilly rig but it will keep them dry and shaded on one end and out in the sunshine and on some grass in the other end. It's about 1/3 the size of their usual run so they aren't losing out by much. Three of them had lice..the older rooster was just eaten UP with them and some parts of his reddened, bare skin was bloody from it all. Three had scale mites. One of the roos was a hen...HUGE and heavy, she looks to have some WR in her breeding,whatever that was! To our credit she had so little feathering and was so very big, we mistook her for a rooster in the dark of the coop. She's older and not laying, so she too will be soup.

And, to no surprise, the brattiest one of the bunch to handle and treat was the silkie...
roll.png
Had scale mites in those darn ugly feet of his, so his dirty little feathery feet now are coated and slathered in castor oil.

When I called the lady to tell her I had one of her hens and to tell her about the infestations, she was shocked that she had these parasites and wanted to know what to do for them. She's had chickens for 5 years in these conditions and has acquired chickens from other flocks just willy nilly, so who knows how long these birds have suffered? This...right here...this scenario is what I see on this forum over and over and wherever I go and for some reason no one seems to think this is animal abuse or neglect, but you leave a dog outdoors for the winter and they will call the humane society on you so fast it'll make yer head spin.

Don't mean to get my panties in a wad but these are the same type of people who claim they cannot kill their own chickens because they just have too tender of a heart. Over and over I hear that same song...I can't kill my babies, but I can sure leave them in a dirty, poopy run and coop that's too small. I can not ever ~in fact, I won't even try to educate myself on how to do so until it's too late~try to manage their health... but I can sure throw the feed down so they are really, really fat because that equals good care. I can leave them to be eaten alive by parasites from the outside and inside but kill them? I could NEVER do that? Oh, how do you DO that? (insert whine here that implies those who kill chickens are some kind of cold blooded murderers)

Sorry...rant over. Didn't mean to step off the deep end on y'all but sometimes my soul cries out for understanding of this horrible new society who doesn't seem to understand the definition of love.
Rant worthy.....
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You know my heart........soft as soft can be.....but won't let one suffer!
 
Of course, you know we want pics of all this....too good to just TELL us, we wanna see these good ideas! A pic is worth a thousand!
I will try to get some pics this week!
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I started some medicated chick feed to fermenting last night about 11:30 - 12. It still hasn't started to ferment. I started a small amount for just 6 chicks. I put it in an extra glass coffee pot we aren't using. I've put about 2 TBLS of acv and I also added a spoon full of yogurt. Do I need to add some more acv?
 
Well...spent the afternoon in the pouring rain constructing a temporary holding pen for these soup roos. It looks like a hillbilly rig but it will keep them dry and shaded on one end and out in the sunshine and on some grass in the other end. It's about 1/3 the size of their usual run so they aren't losing out by much. Three of them had lice..the older rooster was just eaten UP with them and some parts of his reddened, bare skin was bloody from it all. Three had scale mites. One of the roos was a hen...HUGE and heavy, she looks to have some WR in her breeding,whatever that was! To our credit she had so little feathering and was so very big, we mistook her for a rooster in the dark of the coop. She's older and not laying, so she too will be soup.

And, to no surprise, the brattiest one of the bunch to handle and treat was the silkie...
roll.png
Had scale mites in those darn ugly feet of his, so his dirty little feathery feet now are coated and slathered in castor oil.

When I called the lady to tell her I had one of her hens and to tell her about the infestations, she was shocked that she had these parasites and wanted to know what to do for them. She's had chickens for 5 years in these conditions and has acquired chickens from other flocks just willy nilly, so who knows how long these birds have suffered? This...right here...this scenario is what I see on this forum over and over and wherever I go and for some reason no one seems to think this is animal abuse or neglect, but you leave a dog outdoors for the winter and they will call the humane society on you so fast it'll make yer head spin.

Don't mean to get my panties in a wad but these are the same type of people who claim they cannot kill their own chickens because they just have too tender of a heart. Over and over I hear that same song...I can't kill my babies, but I can sure leave them in a dirty, poopy run and coop that's too small. I can not ever ~in fact, I won't even try to educate myself on how to do so until it's too late~try to manage their health... but I can sure throw the feed down so they are really, really fat because that equals good care. I can leave them to be eaten alive by parasites from the outside and inside but kill them? I could NEVER do that? Oh, how do you DO that? (insert whine here that implies those who kill chickens are some kind of cold blooded murderers)

Sorry...rant over. Didn't mean to step off the deep end on y'all but sometimes my soul cries out for understanding of this horrible new society who doesn't seem to understand the definition of love.

Did she not want the hen back? Oh man I sure hope she really does do something for those poor chickens which also reminds me I need to put some more sulfur on mines roosts.

Well we got rain to Bee but it wasn't pouring when we were having to do what I am about to tell you about thank goodness. I went out these this evening to feed them and get them all back in their pen and I noticed the roof in the run about to touch the ground. We worked on the run again yesterday and had to tear out another 8' section of it to replace posts. The roof (poultry wire) is sagging on the top now since it's not attached on the width area. I had a tarp over the wire on top to keep them dry and more shade. Had just bought the tarp and paid 40 bucks for it and wound up having to poke a hole in it to drain out the water. Hubby and I both could not lift it up to dump out all that water!
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I sure did not want to poke a hole in it but the 2 by one the top side and the one on the end was just about to pop from the pressure of all this water so I HAD to do it. Once some of it came out to release some of that pressure I got on the ladder on the side where the 2 by was and I know I dipped out 20 gallons of water out of it. I cannot believe that thing held! I was so afraid the thing was going to break and whop us any second. Thanking God that it held so we could release all that pressure. So we put up some 2 bys to push the roof up in there so it wont have a valley to fill up again. I think they said we got about 3" in just s short time but thank goodness we didn't get soaked trying to get that water out of there.

I'm glad you got your new ones pen fixed but hate you got wet. Although IF you're like me at all I'd whole lot rather work in the rain and get wet than work in the heat and sweat.
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I will try to get some pics this week!
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I started some medicated chick feed to fermenting last night about 11:30 - 12. It still hasn't started to ferment. I started a small amount for just 6 chicks. I put it in an extra glass coffee pot we aren't using. I've put about 2 TBLS of acv and I also added a spoon full of yogurt. Do I need to add some more acv?

Nah...ambient temps have a lot to do with how quickly it ferments, so make sure it's in a warm area to get things started. You don't even really need the ACV if you are fermenting in warm temps, as it will draw aceti from the air along the way.
Did she not want the hen back? Oh man I sure hope she really does do something for those poor chickens which also reminds me I need to put some more sulfur on mines roosts.

Well we got rain to Bee but it wasn't pouring when we were having to do what I am about to tell you about thank goodness. I went out these this evening to feed them and get them all back in their pen and I noticed the roof in the run about to touch the ground. We worked on the run again yesterday and had to tear out another 8' section of it to replace posts. The roof (poultry wire) is sagging on the top now since it's not attached on the width area. I had a tarp over the wire on top to keep them dry and more shade. Had just bought the tarp and paid 40 bucks for it and wound up having to poke a hole in it to drain out the water. Hubby and I both could not lift it up to dump out all that water!
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I sure did not want to poke a hole in it but the 2 by one the top side and the one on the end was just about to pop from the pressure of all this water so I HAD to do it. Once some of it came out to release some of that pressure I got on the ladder on the side where the 2 by was and I know I dipped out 20 gallons of water out of it. I cannot believe that thing held! I was so afraid the thing was going to break and whop us any second. Thanking God that it held so we could release all that pressure. So we put up some 2 bys to push the roof up in there so it wont have a valley to fill up again. I think they said we got about 3" in just s short time but thank goodness we didn't get soaked trying to get that water out of there.

I'm glad you got your new ones pen fixed but hate you got wet. Although IF you're like me at all I'd whole lot rather work in the rain and get wet than work in the heat and sweat.
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Oh, yeah! Fat girl don't like to sweat...
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At first she wanted the hen back but then she remembered that hen is 3 yrs old and so she didn't want it back.

About that tarping on the run..I've learned something along the way and a nice arch under tarps, with the tarp stretched tautly, can withstand really high winds, rain and snow. If you had a way to create an arch with pvc or cattle panels or such it sure would save wear and tear on your tarp and shed water well.
 
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