Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

[Triple Willow]

I have to admit that I love the wild critters too. I also love to see a coyote and LOVE to hear them yipping and carrying on. I also love to see the deer -except in MY headlights! LOL Somewhere I have pics of deer and Canadian geese with babies that I took from here on my back porch. I usually keep a camera and a pair of binoculars handy. If I had to live in the city...don't even want to think about it!

BUT those dang coyotes will take cats and lap dogs in a second! As long as all the wild critters don't try to eat what is MINE we get along just fine.

 

[Beekissed]

I'm with ya on the leaves..the older I get, the more allergic response I get to things like raking leaves, cleaning out rabbit pens, etc. Don't know why that is..never used to bother me when I was young. I'm still gathering leaves here to fill my storage area...just haven't got back to it lately and am not looking forward to it because of that reason...the allergic reaction. Split and stacked firewood all day yesterday, gave a hair cut and helped track a deer after dark....feeling like ground deer meat today, I tell ya. Skinned it and quartered it today and put it in the fridge to rest....then I took a pill and laid ME down to rest.

Still have 4 chickens to cull this year and will be adding those to the other birds being canned...will have 8 whole birds in the jar then. Not much but better than nothing and it should make for 16 jars of canned chicken and stock, with additional jars of stock also. Hope to get another deer or two in the jar before bow season is out, if the Lord is willing. Starting on the apple sauce and butter next week as well, as the trees were overloaded with huge red apples this year.

Feels good to have the wood shed packed and additional wood in side areas and on the porch, food in the jar, dry goods stocked for winter. Found another two 40lb tins of red turkey wheat up in the shed when I thought we were about out, so that's got me tickled as well. That wheat was stored and sealed for 50 yrs storage back in the 70s..and grinds up like it was harvested yesterday. Practically makes the bread by itself it has so much good gluten...so plenty of wheat for making homemade bread this winter too. Feels good to be getting ready for a long winter ahead, with warm days by the stove and good foods harvested or made right here.

 

[RoseMarie1]

Look at this yellow egg that one of my chickens layed!!!



Juuuust kidding! -camera did that somehow. LOL Okay, make fun of me but I am sooo excited... One of my younger group has layed their first egg!

It was either the ancona or a leghorn - leghorn I bet. They are 21 weeks old today. It is a pretty big first egg. It took my australorps and that crew a while to get the egg size uniform. This egg is almost as big as one of their eggs now.


...where's that Rose Marie, she will understand greenhorn excitement over an egg. lol

LOL oh yes I understand your excitement. Am sick so haven't been on here much.

 

[RoseMarie1]

Oh! So sorry you are sick!

That's miserable. I will pray for your quick recovery. You need The Treatment! So glad you are getting more eggs....and yes, a basket is in order. Go for straw if you can...I tried an old metal one once and it was a little harsh on the eggs, cracked a few. Used it for decoration after that. Get well, Rose!!!


Yeah..they can start breeding before they lay, but you can be sure laying is on the way if they are breeding. I don't know why they are picking at wattles..I've never seen a hen do that before. Maybe you can throw them a few red apples and give her something else to peck that is red?

You could also do some deep litter in that pen to give them something else to do but pick on one another, maybe?

Thank you Bee! Now what's THE Treatment? Whisky? lol I have some straw baskets around here I just need to pick one. lol I like baskets so when I find a really pretty neat one at the thrift stores for a good price I get it. We always use them for something. Some times I even use them to put a gift in to give someone. That way they can also use the basket to.
still dragging today but at least I can breath better and the coughing has slowed down w bunch. Sore though from all that coughing. lol Thank you for your prayers!


What do you guys do to your eggs when you boil them to make them peel easier with them being fresh? I used salt but it's not helping. The lining on mines eggs are so thick it's not wanting to turn free. I'd be scared to hatch out any without lots of moisture because they'd liable to be shrink wrapped since it's so thick.

 

[RoseMarie1]

The only recipes I have seen shows mixing pork sausage in with it. Now, to me, that's defeating the purpose of making sausage from lean meats but I guess it's hard to have a sausage without some fats. That's sort of why I would like the hard sausage or as some call it, deer salami. We've got a fresh deer to process too, but most of it is going in the jar. We expect the electric to be off for extended periods this winter so we aren't trusting anything to the freezer this year....I lost a good amount of my CX that I raised last year to that little episode and that's not going to happen to me again.

Bee I'll have to see IF I can find the link to this Mennonite ladies blog. She has a really good canning deer recipe on there. I was like you don't put any water in there? She said NONE, so I was a little scared but I tried it and it was VERY GOOD! It DOES make its own water! I also made her soup recipe and it's awesome. The beef one and the chicken one. The beef one tasted just like a bought can vegetable beef soup I like.


I found it! http://homejoys.blogspot.com/2009/12/canning-venison.html
Like I said I tried this and it is awesome! I canned the whole deer this way and we all loved it. I was so floored it made it's own juice. I did not add any at all to the jar and it was full of juice when I got it out of the canner. I checked this site below to be sure that was the right pressure canning for my area. http://nchfp.uga.edu/how/can_home.html

 

[Triple Willow]

LOL oh yes I understand your excitement. Am sick so haven't been on here much. 

I hope you get well soon Rose!

 

[RoseMarie1]

I hope you get well soon Rose!

Thank you TW.

 

[Triple Willow]

@Bee... Sounds like you are about ready. It has been so nice here today, short sleeve weather. I've still got a lot of leaves on the trees so I'll have another round or two of leaf gathering. Shoot I'm not done this rould yet! I need to rake out some here and there but I hate doing that because it kills my shoulders. I'll have one of those pills tonight! LOL I'd like to get a whole deer or two. I think I have only got one piece in the freezer. I did set out a couple traps for some squirrels. I need some whole shell corn. They are easy to catch with that stuff. I bought some ground corn the other day and let me tell you, it is ground! - almost, well yeah about like cornmeal. I need to get a wood stove set back up. Three of them and none hooked up! Duh! I've still got planty to do, not quite as far along as you are yet. But I'll get there. Hope the weather stays good for a while.

Buckeye roo enjoying the leaves.

 

[Beekissed]

Thank you Bee! Now what's THE Treatment? Whisky? lol I have some straw baskets around here I just need to pick one. lol I like baskets so when I find a really pretty neat one at the thrift stores for a good price I get it. We always use them for something. Some times I even use them to put a gift in to give someone. That way they can also use the basket to.
still dragging today but at least I can breath better and the coughing has slowed down w bunch. Sore though from all that coughing. lol Thank you for your prayers!


What do you guys do to your eggs when you boil them to make them peel easier with them being fresh? I used salt but it's not helping. The lining on mines eggs are so thick it's not wanting to turn free. I'd be scared to hatch out any without lots of moisture because they'd liable to be shrink wrapped since it's so thick.

The Treatment involves getting your core body temps up for a short while in order to simulate an increase in temperature, which increases white blood cell to the source of infection/inflammation~or so the premise states~and can shorten the life of your cold/URI. Simply put, it's an old timers solution to not having antibiotics or having a viral infection that doesn't respond to such. I've tried it several times when I had the first makings of a cold and it has worked each time to curtail it...if done properly. Most folks don't follow all the steps and then say it doesn't work..my son, for one. He never does it right and so it doesn't work for him, but others who have tried it report favorable results.

Here's the routine. At the first sign of a cold..sore throat, sniffles, cough, etc...and that goes for the symptoms you are currently dealing with as well...fix yourself some hot boullion or hot tea. Run a hot bath...as hot as you can possibly stand it and still sit down in it. Drink the hot drink while you are soaking in the hot bath. This is not a bath for washing, so don't wet the head. When it's as hot as you can stand it, both inside and out, get out and dry off briskly. Slather Vick's to the chest and the soles of your feet. Yes, the soles of your feet. Put on warm socks, and a sweat suit if you have one...whatever extra warm clothes you have, put it on. Go straight to bed and cover up with the warmest blankets you possess. I usually take some cold tablets in this process so that I can sleep through the next part because it's very hard for me to sleep when I'm hot. Stay bundled like that for as long as you can stand it..the hotter the better.

The next day, drink 3 glasses of OJ...you can space that throughout the day. That day you will feel about 50% better than you did the day before..at least, that's been my experience. The day after that, you'll feel about 75% better...drink the OJ that day too. On the third day, you should be feeling almost 100% better than you were...keep drinking the OJ.

I've had this work time and again and it's not all hocus pocus...simulating a fever does much what a fever does for you, it merely activates your natural immune response. The OJ helps with that as well and I've found it works better than taking Vit. C caps...makes your skin lovely as well. The Vicks? The menthol works in some way, not sure what...but when I put it on my feet, I can taste it in my mouth, so there's a systemic effect going on there whatever it is.

Can't hurt to try it and see if it helps even a little bit. It's kept me from experiencing a cold for many years now, so I'm a believer.

Bee I'll have to see IF I can find the link to this Mennonite ladies blog. She has a really good canning deer recipe on there. I was like you don't put any water in there? She said NONE, so I was a little scared but I tried it and it was VERY GOOD! It DOES make its own water! I also made her soup recipe and it's awesome. The beef one and the chicken one. The beef one tasted just like a bought can vegetable beef soup I like.


I found it! http://homejoys.blogspot.com/2009/12/canning-venison.html
Like I said I tried this and it is awesome! I canned the whole deer this way and we all loved it. I was so floored it made it's own juice. I did not add any at all to the jar and it was full of juice when I got it out of the canner. I checked this site below to be sure that was the right pressure canning for my area. http://nchfp.uga.edu/how/can_home.html

Yep..that's cold packing and the meat produces its own stock. We've been canning deer since I was a little girl...tons of it. That's the meat I was raised on and it's still pretty much the only red meat we eat as we don't buy store bought meats.

 

[Beekissed]

@Bee... Sounds like you are about ready. It has been so nice here today, short sleeve weather. I've still got a lot of leaves on the trees so I'll have another round or two of leaf gathering. Shoot I'm not done this rould yet! I need to rake out some here and there but I hate doing that because it kills my shoulders. I'll have one of those pills tonight! LOL I'd like to get a whole deer or two. I think I have only got one piece in the freezer. I did set out a couple traps for some squirrels. I need some whole shell corn. They are easy to catch with that stuff. I bought some ground corn the other day and let me tell you, it is ground! - almost, well yeah about like cornmeal. I need to get a wood stove set back up. Three of them and none hooked up! Duh! I've still got planty to do, not quite as far along as you are yet. But I'll get there. Hope the weather stays good for a while.

Buckeye roo enjoying the leaves.

That's a pretty bird! I wouldn't mind having a few buckeyes in my flock just to see how they perform...I love their coloring!

We couldn't live without our wood heat here..it's all the heating source we use. There is nothing like wood heat...forced air heat is so inadequate after you've had a wood stove. When we visit other people in the winter months we sit around and freeze in their homes, then thank God when we get back to our little cabin in the woods with the warm fire.

I just saw Jake barking up at one of the trees in the yard and looked out to see my chickens all gathered in duck and freeze mode but not hawk mode....I knew what was happening. We've got a deer bone yard out here in the yard so it's drawing in buzzards. I went out and there sat a cheeky buggar in the tree and he just wasn't going to fly off. I clapped my hands and he finally left...Jake HATES a buzzard.

The only birds picking carcasses around here are the chickens..and they do an excellent job. You'd think they were professionals!