Yep...and maybe throw some NH in with that bunch. Everything you could ever want in a chicken can be found in those breeds and all four are hard working, beautiful, hardy and worthy of feed in my book. Out of all the flocks down through all the years, these breeds keep popping up as survivors, excellent layers, steady workers and meaty carcasses. I don't care about fancy and I don't care about unusual feather markings...all I care about, in the end, is who can put eggs and meat in my cupboard in the cheapest manner, are tough and hardy out on free range and look good in the doing of it. All those breeds have stood the test of time down through the years.