Fermenting Feed for Meat Birds

Meaty stinky poops and just regular stinky chicken poops are two different things. When I say no smell at all, the individual poops have no smell when I hold them up to my nose. When they are kept dry they still have no smell. In my coop, after a rainy or humid day? Then you can smell some chicken stinky but not the overwhelming, rotten smell that gets in your mouth of the normal CX poop that I could smell last time.

I think that has more to do with more concentrated and more moist droppings in one place, so birds in a confined area like a tractor are going to have more smells than those who free range and don't concentrate their droppings in one place. Because my birds all sleep in one area that is much too small for their number(50 birds in a 8x10 area)~even though it is very open to the air~their feces are concentrated on one spot. Some days you can smell it when you walk into it and some days you can't....but it still doesn't even remotely smell like it would if I had 50 birds dropping their "normal" smelling loads there. If they were, I doubt I could stand to go in the place without gagging and my eyes watering. That is one reason that so many people really have to invest in bedding when they raise confined meaties...the massive amounts of foul smelling poop creates a real stench. The cecal poops are still a little rank on my birds but I think that is just normal chicken poops as well.

I've decided to start processing mine, even though I had planned on waiting until they are 10 wks. The main reason is that it is going to be cool and clear here all week...no humidity, no heat, cool breezes. Can't beat that kind of weather for perfect butchering weather! Chances are I won't have an opportunity like this anymore this spring, so I'm hopping on it now. Today the birds are 8 wks old and most are the proper size for processing. Since I'm doing them in manageable groups, some may be at 10 wks before they meet their end, but many will go this coming weekend and the week after.

I'm amazed at their growth and vitality, even at this age. One of them climbed the hoop house wall this morning(4 ft) and dropped into the coop because I was dishing out the feed and had them all locked out when I do it. There is netting up the wire to that height and I never dreamed any would fit through those cattle panel squares anymore nor climb that high...but they seem to be still flying, running, climbing, fighting and foraging without any regard to their increased weight and bulk.

I've marked one hen for keeping as she is the most dedicated forager and will often stay out all day foraging without any meals until she comes into the coop at dusk. I'd like to add her to my laying flock and see what happens.
 
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My meaties aren't stinky either! Last year when I had my chicks in the coop on the brooder side, when I would open the door in the morning the smell just about killed me! This year all I smell is straw when I open the door. I am so thrilled about that.

My poultry net from Premier 1 is supposed to be delivered today so I have very high hopes of them being out of the brooder and onto grass by the weekend. I have a Salatin style tractor that we are going cut a door into and that way they can go into the tractor to sleep and shade up if they need to. I have their nipple watering system set up in the tractor and will feed them outside the tractor. I may set up another nipple system for them to use while they are outside.

If I put a heat lamp in the tractor for nighttime do you think they will be okay if the nighttime temps drop down into the high 30's??
 
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As for no poo smell, I picked up on that too. I feed them close to my back porch so if it stinks, I know it!
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Thank goodness it's only me here or I'd never get by with that.
But now, I smell nothing. Well, no poo smell anyway. The flies still know it's there but my nose doesn't. I used to have to hose down the back porch to keep the smell down and soak off the runny dried stuff that stuck like part of the concrete. No more. I can just flick those things into the grass if I want to keep it off the concrete. Sort of like playing hockey! LOL!
They get fed a couple times a day, enough to eat but not enough so that much is left. It's close to the porch because I don't get as many varmits in it that way. And once they eat in the late afternoon, the feeders are left empty during the night. The exception to that is if I have new chicks. They get food available 24/7 for at least the first two weeks. But not in the main coop, in a smaller one that is more rodent proof and hopefully completely predator proof, at least for the predators we do have here. Still, as soon as I'm comfortable with them not having food 24/7, out it comes.
Maybe you just invented a new way to practice your golf swing.
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Ok, I know that Nankin Bantams will NEVER be confused with a meat bird, but I have been giving the fermented feed for a couple of days now and wanted to report. I have already seen a TREMENDOUS drop in how much they eat. I was using the smaller quart feeders for them and filling them twice a day. As of last night I am filling up the bottom tray only, no reserve, with the fermented feed and they take all day to eat it. This could be partially because they had almost finished feathering out and simply need less food, but it's amazing to me, none the less. I also can actually keep up with their water drinking now that they eat a moist food, lol. I will say that over the last three days of eating the fermented feed I have noticed a "jump" their size, a definete difference in their feathers and food consumption, and the smell. OMG, they didnt' really STINK before, but now you can hardly smell anything besides pine shavings and feed
 
That's a wonderful report! I wish some of you could have taken a before and after pic so that we could see the differences, if any, in the conditioning of the birds. I'm so glad it is working out for you all.

I am very pleased as well about the amount of feed cost for my CX...as it stands I've bought $143 in feeds or 600 lbs total and still have 100 lbs left. I've fed approx. $120 in the past 8 wks and these birds are growing right on the feeds fed. They are well-developed, healthy and thriving on it. I don't know that I could have gotten by so well on feed if I had fed it dry but I still think it's remarkable to feed 50 meaties on $120 of feed to yield what will be approx. 200-250 lbs of meat. Not a bad conversion!
 
I'm starting my ferment today. It has scratch, layer, and flax seed. I covered it with water and added whey and ACV. We will see how they like it tomorrow or the next day. I'm sure they will love it.
 
I will have to join in a add that with 50 chicks in brooders in the Garage the DW is not complaining about the farm smell coming in from the garage as she has "every" time before as i raised chicks in there. I am not changing shaving as often as i thought i would have to as they are for chicks they are not pooping out the squirts i expected. I have raised 1 or 2 meat birds by accident in the past and even with just a couple in the mix you notice quickly the smell. And i still keep checking to make sure they are drinking water as they consume very little. i serve up the FF after draining for about 15 minutes and it looks like meal that has become wet, not soupy at all but this seems to reduce their water intake. I had some 5 week old Marans with some sex links in a coop that i have switched over to FF and after a couple of days they are taking to it also. Will report later on feed consumption and bird condition. 3 of the Marans are cocks that will be processed with the meaties so i am very interested in their muscle gain on this diet. Really glad i came across this thread. If i move the entire flock to this feeding method i am currently looking at creating a different bucket in bucket setup as i can see the value in Kassaundra setup. Scoping a large galvanized garbage can with a 25 gallon plastic can inside and another 25 gal plastic can inside that one with the holes drilled in it. The metal can is to keep outside and not worry about anything chewing through it. I have a beam i can put a pulley on that will assist me in lifting the large can to drain. This way i can have more feed on hand without having to create a dual 5 gallon bucket setup. Just trying to keep this method of feeding simple.

Norm in N.CA
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That is certainly the proof in the pudding...when the DW notices it, it must be real, huh?
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Probably keeps you out of the dog house a little too! I agree...last time I just had 20 CX in with my layer flock I also noticed just how much stink they added to the bedding that hadn't been there before.
 

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