Fertilized eggs but no rooster??

[NatJ]

Fertile means capable of being fertilized

Given that fertilizing happens before the egg is laid with chickens, I can't see any reason to describe any chicken egg as "fertile." Either is had been fertilized before being laid, or it never can be fertilized because it's too late.

From google: "A "fertile" chicken egg means it has the potential to develop into a chick because it has been fertilized by a rooster, while a "fertilized" chicken egg specifically refers to an egg where the sperm from a rooster has successfully fused with the egg cell, initiating the development of an embryo inside the egg; essentially, a fertilized egg is a fertile egg where the fertilization process has already occurred."

So fertilized is just fertile but taken to the next step of development.

I'm guessing that came from an AI, because it doesn't actually make sense. If a fertile egg "has been fertilized by a rooster," how is that different from an egg where "the sperm from a rooster has successfully fused with the egg cell"? It sounds like the same thing in different words.

[looked it up on google...] Yup, I find that same AI summary. Those things are wrong so often it's not even funny, for any subject I have yet checked. Sorry, AI, you don't know what you're talking about, please quit confusing real people.

 

[TOMTE]

Given that fertilizing happens before the egg is laid with chickens, I can't see any reason to describe any chicken egg as "fertile." Either is had been fertilized before being laid, or it never can be fertilized because it's too late.


I'm guessing that came from an AI, because it doesn't actually make sense. If a fertile egg "has been fertilized by a rooster," how is that different from an egg where "the sperm from a rooster has successfully fused with the egg cell"? It sounds like the same thing in different words.

[looked it up on google...] Yup, I find that same AI summary. Those things are wrong so often it's not even funny, for any subject I have yet checked. Sorry, AI, you don't know what you're talking about, please quit confusing real people.

Didn't even notice it was from AI Yeah I was kind of confused by the wording, but I'm confused by wording even when it does make sense so I thought it was a me problem.

 

[MysteryChicken]

What is the difference?

Don't both words mean a sperm cell from a rooster joined with an egg cell from the hen before the egg shell got put on and the egg was laid?

Fertile means the hen is not sterile(Able to produce offspring). Fertilized means a sperm has entered the cell.

The opposite of Fertile, is Infertile.(Incapable of producing Offspring.)

 

[MysteryChicken]

PG eggs then? Or no? I wonder if the eggs with bullseyes that my girl laid were fertile, then

No.

 

[tlcmurphy]

Fertile means the hen is not sterile(Able to produce offspring). Fertilized means a sperm has entered the cell.

The opposite of Fertile, is Infertile.(Incapable of producing Offspring.)

Yes, as it is with human females. Just because an individual is fertile does not mean they’ve been fertilized. I’d imagine the same is true for chickens.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Yes, as it is with human females. Just because an individual is fertile does not mean they’ve been fertilized. I’d imagine the same is true for chickens.

Yes, I just clarified that. I didn't say anything about the eggs being fertilized.

 

[tlcmurphy]

Yes, I just clarified that. I didn't say anything about the eggs being fertilized.

I was agreeing with you

 

[NatJ]

Fertile means the hen is not sterile(Able to produce offspring). Fertilized means a sperm has entered the cell.

The opposite of Fertile, is Infertile.(Incapable of producing Offspring.)

So that means an infertile hen does not lay eggs?

Or are you saying some hens do lay eggs but cannot lay eggs that will produce offspring, even if the hen is with a rooster?

 

[MysteryChicken]

So that means an infertile hen does not lay eggs?

Or are you saying some hens do lay eggs but cannot lay eggs that will produce offspring, even if the hen is with a rooster?

Infertile hens are both ways actually. They'll lay eggs that never develop offspring, or never lay eggs.
I've got an Infertile dwarf that doesn't lay eggs.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I was agreeing with you

I haven't slept well, the last couple nights. Must've misread something somewhere.