Finally, after a waiting a year, I have's unbelievable.

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by crystalchik, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. crystalchik

    crystalchik Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jan 15, 2008
    Central Florida
    WARNING: this does get kind of lengthy… I apologize ahead of time! But it is worth the read…

    This was the forum I had posted over a year ago…
    I HAVE SYMPTOMS!!!! (icky pics)

    Finally, after a waiting a year, I have results...its unbelievable

    Actually, just yesterday we came to several conclusions about the necropsy that was highly unsatisfactory to me. Turns out, the lab that tested me birds did a terrible job keeping things straight. I was having many problems at the time, with adults and chicks. So they suggested that I submit live birds as well as the carcasses for necropsy, which I hesitantly did…I was so heartbroken. I brought them a sick hen, roo, and adolescent silkie, and I also brought them 3 chick carcasses (the chicks were the ones with most unusual symptoms, the ones that I really needed tested...they had the diarrhea and then would die at 4-7 days old. About 20 of them...)

    When I got the report back, the birds were labeled 1, 2, and 3, not knowing which were which. I called and got that straightened out, but the rest of the report held more inconsistencies that I needed to call and have sorted out as well.
    Dr. Butcher, a licensed poultry doctor at UF, has been working with me and trying to help me out with this odd report, and he is just as baffled as I am.

    The Results and their Problems:
    1) They pooled all the feces samples from all the birds together, and there were a high number of cocci in the results, but we don’t know which bird it came from. We can assume it was the younger, as older birds usually have some resistance, but knowing for sure would have helped.
    2) The test showed that the conjunctival (eyelid) tissue contained “intranuclear eosinophilic inclusions”, but then diagnosed it as Pox-virus. Pox, however, can only be “intracytoplasmic”. They are never the same… Dr. Butcher said they are two completely different diseases, and are in no way related. When I followed up and called the doctor who did the necropsy, he or she said they could cause one another. Dr. Butcher said he will try to ignore that comment because it is just not possible…I researched it, and he’s right. He said he hopes it was just a type-o. But we won’t ever really know.
    3) The hen and chick came up positive for Mycoplasma synoviae, but the rooster did not. Being from the same coop, every bird should have had MS. As stated by Dr. Butcher, if a few have it, more than likely the rest of the flock has it. It is extremely rare that they will not.
    4) The chick carcasses that I submitted were never accounted for. Therefore, I will never know what plagued my chicks and killed almost all of them. This was the result that I really, really needed.

    Overall, summed up perfectly by Dr. Butcher, what a mess! I find out now that that lab was a state lab, and probably was not equipped to handle poultry. They treated it all as one case, instead of separating out the birds…they through all the samples and collections together, so we wont ever really know who was sick with what, though we can try and guess. The doctor that I spoke with that did the necropsy did not seem very well-versed in poultry medicine based on the answers I received from him or her. The one thing that we know for sure is they had conjunctivitis, which I could have guessed myself. It is really disheartening for me, and I really hope you have better luck.

    I want to give a special thanks to Dr. Butcher at UF who was so helpful to me, and so patiently and willingly called me and worked with me through the confusion of this report. He was wonderful to work with. I would have never gotten this far without his help!
  2. CMV

    CMV Flock Mistress

    Apr 15, 2009
    crystalchik, I can't get to the original story through the link.
  3. seminolewind

    seminolewind Flock Mistress Premium Member

    Sep 6, 2007
    spring hill, florida
    Hi, did you get the necropsies thru that animal disease in Kissimmee?I have talked to them on the phone and felt that they knew what they were talking about as far as poultry. Let me know, I can post you the phone number and address.
  4. Yay Chicks!

    Yay Chicks! Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 15, 2010
    Forest Grove, OR
    Quote:I couldn't either, but then copied and pasted the url and got there.
  5. Yay Chicks!

    Yay Chicks! Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 15, 2010
    Forest Grove, OR
    That does sound like a nightmare, Crystalchik. I'm sorry you had to experience that. I remembered seeing the picture you posted last year. What did you decide to do going forward with regard to keeping poultry?

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