Nevermind, it was pointless.
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Foot help..
- Thread starter BobwhiteQuailLover
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but there is more then one right way, I know people who have raised quail around chickens for YEARS without problems, and fed them 18% layer ration as adults with problems. It just seems that around here you either do it your way or you shouldnt be raising them.
Not important to most.
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like not keeping them around chickens? Which you preach to me about all of the time
Should have explained it in privative. Disregaurd.
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I dont want to criticize you, my problem is you saying my quail are going to die because I dont do the same thing as you.
Sorry this thread went wrong
To the OP.
To the OP.
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It was pointless, my hopes for reaching them were futile. Disregard.
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NOT SO MUCH CUT AND DRY TOTAL WAY. BUT THERE ARE SOME VERY GOOD REASONS FOR STRONG SUGGESTIONS. FOLKS COME ON HERE FOR INFO SHARING, HOPEFULLY CORRECT INFO (NOT ALWAYS THE CASE) BUT ULTIMATELY THE ANIMALS ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE OWNER AND THATS WHERE THE BUCK STOPS.... NOW IF SAID OWNER CANT ACCEPT ADVICE OR INFO OFFERED THEN YOU'RE DONE AND NOTHING MORE CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED. ANYONE CAN POST INFO IN MANY NUMBERS OF WAYS INNOCENTLY AND WHEN READ BY ANOTHER THE PERCEPTION OF THAT CAN BE TAKEN THE WRONG WAY--- THATS AN UNFORTUNATE FACT OF FORUMS.
BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE KEEP NEEDLING EACH OTHER AND YOU WILL FACE THE WRATH OF THE MODERATORS. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE PROGRAM CHANGE THE CHANNEL.
LIKE IT OR NOT THERE ARE ACCEPTED FACTS ABOUT SPECIFIC SPECES AND EVEN BREEDS OR STRAINS WITHIN THOSE SPECES, THEY ARE DICTATED BY MOTHER NATURES DESIGN- NOT OURS. YOU CAN ACCEPT THESE AND PROSPER OR RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE(AS IS THE CASE IN THIS VERY THREAD) TO YOUR OWN AGRAVATION AND FRUSTRATION AND EXPENSE WHILE THE ANIMALS SUFFER. SO KEEP IN MIND THE ADVICE OFFERED WHILE POSSIBLY UNSAVORY TO US IS BASED ON THESE TRAITS, ATTRIBUTING THEM TO 1 PERSON THEN DEVELOPING A DISLIKE FOR THAT PERSON ISNT CORRECT OR FAIR TO EITHER PARTY, NOR DOES IT ASSIST ANYONE.
1 OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN THE QUAIL FORUM IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN A FEW SIMPLE BUT OFTEN OVERLOOKED FACTS:
#1 QUAIL ARE GAMEBIRDS, NOT DOMESTIC POULTRY. THEY DO NOT RESPOND WELL TO MANY DIFFERING WAYS, THEY HIGHLY SPECIALIZED SPECES THAT HAVE EVOLVED DIFFERENTLY TO MEET DIFFERING CONDITIONS AND HAVE NOT BE KEPT DOMESTICALLY ANYWHERE NEAR AS LONG AS OTHER DOMESTICATED POULTRY= THIS IS FUNDIMENTAL KNOWLEDGE FOR ANYONE WANTING TO BE A GAMEBIRD ENTHUSIAST. BY ACCEPTING THIS IT MEANS YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME THINGS WILL DIFFER GREATLY AND FOR GOOD REASON===MOTHER NATURES REASONS.
#2 THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF QUAIL AND THEY EXHIBIT VERY DIFFERENT BEHAVIORS AND PROBLEM SETS AS WELL AS NEEDS. ANSWERING A BOB WHITE QUESTION WITH COTURNIX INFORMATION IS ALMOST ALWAYS GOING TO BE INCORRECT--- THEY ARE NOT THE SAME, PERIOD!
THESE ARE PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACTS YET SO OFTEN OVERLOOKED AND USUALLY THE ROOT CAUSE OF STRIFE HERE
NOT SO MUCH CUT AND DRY TOTAL WAY. BUT THERE ARE SOME VERY GOOD REASONS FOR STRONG SUGGESTIONS. FOLKS COME ON HERE FOR INFO SHARING, HOPEFULLY CORRECT INFO (NOT ALWAYS THE CASE) BUT ULTIMATELY THE ANIMALS ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE OWNER AND THATS WHERE THE BUCK STOPS.... NOW IF SAID OWNER CANT ACCEPT ADVICE OR INFO OFFERED THEN YOU'RE DONE AND NOTHING MORE CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED. ANYONE CAN POST INFO IN MANY NUMBERS OF WAYS INNOCENTLY AND WHEN READ BY ANOTHER THE PERCEPTION OF THAT CAN BE TAKEN THE WRONG WAY--- THATS AN UNFORTUNATE FACT OF FORUMS.
BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE KEEP NEEDLING EACH OTHER AND YOU WILL FACE THE WRATH OF THE MODERATORS. IF YOU DONT LIKE THE PROGRAM CHANGE THE CHANNEL.
LIKE IT OR NOT THERE ARE ACCEPTED FACTS ABOUT SPECIFIC SPECES AND EVEN BREEDS OR STRAINS WITHIN THOSE SPECES, THEY ARE DICTATED BY MOTHER NATURES DESIGN- NOT OURS. YOU CAN ACCEPT THESE AND PROSPER OR RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE(AS IS THE CASE IN THIS VERY THREAD) TO YOUR OWN AGRAVATION AND FRUSTRATION AND EXPENSE WHILE THE ANIMALS SUFFER. SO KEEP IN MIND THE ADVICE OFFERED WHILE POSSIBLY UNSAVORY TO US IS BASED ON THESE TRAITS, ATTRIBUTING THEM TO 1 PERSON THEN DEVELOPING A DISLIKE FOR THAT PERSON ISNT CORRECT OR FAIR TO EITHER PARTY, NOR DOES IT ASSIST ANYONE.
1 OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN THE QUAIL FORUM IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN A FEW SIMPLE BUT OFTEN OVERLOOKED FACTS:
#1 QUAIL ARE GAMEBIRDS, NOT DOMESTIC POULTRY. THEY DO NOT RESPOND WELL TO MANY DIFFERING WAYS, THEY HIGHLY SPECIALIZED SPECES THAT HAVE EVOLVED DIFFERENTLY TO MEET DIFFERING CONDITIONS AND HAVE NOT BE KEPT DOMESTICALLY ANYWHERE NEAR AS LONG AS OTHER DOMESTICATED POULTRY= THIS IS FUNDIMENTAL KNOWLEDGE FOR ANYONE WANTING TO BE A GAMEBIRD ENTHUSIAST. BY ACCEPTING THIS IT MEANS YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME THINGS WILL DIFFER GREATLY AND FOR GOOD REASON===MOTHER NATURES REASONS.
#2 THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF QUAIL AND THEY EXHIBIT VERY DIFFERENT BEHAVIORS AND PROBLEM SETS AS WELL AS NEEDS. ANSWERING A BOB WHITE QUESTION WITH COTURNIX INFORMATION IS ALMOST ALWAYS GOING TO BE INCORRECT--- THEY ARE NOT THE SAME, PERIOD!
THESE ARE PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACTS YET SO OFTEN OVERLOOKED AND USUALLY THE ROOT CAUSE OF STRIFE HERE
Maybe some are just trying to get thread locked...........yes more then one way to do something........but two ways ,almost every time one works better.
I am not on this section much..........but some wrong info on here will do alot of harm.............and yes i will point it out, then people can take it or leave it.
Most of my info i have learn over years raising thousands of birds.
Like the white lights for brooders....will it work yes sometime.......untill that day they start eating their fellow birds inside first.......coturnix are nothing like other quail or other gamebirds.
Are my ways the only way , no but I have seen or try alot of ways.
Just like I posted about coon eating legs off quail, thru 1/2 x 1/2 wire..........wasn't 3 days until someone posted about the very thing happen.
Like I post all the time about danger of peafowl and turkey with chicken...........for sure going to get a post about i do without problem, oh people will say you can. Then read a post of a person that lost 9 out of 10 of their turkey, what did they tell me.......yep guy told them sure you can keep them with chicken. had one tested yep blackhead guess what carry blackhead with no harm to them CHICKEN.
Yep more than one way........but a heck alot more risk one way.
I am not on this section much..........but some wrong info on here will do alot of harm.............and yes i will point it out, then people can take it or leave it.
Most of my info i have learn over years raising thousands of birds.
Like the white lights for brooders....will it work yes sometime.......untill that day they start eating their fellow birds inside first.......coturnix are nothing like other quail or other gamebirds.
Are my ways the only way , no but I have seen or try alot of ways.
Just like I posted about coon eating legs off quail, thru 1/2 x 1/2 wire..........wasn't 3 days until someone posted about the very thing happen.
Like I post all the time about danger of peafowl and turkey with chicken...........for sure going to get a post about i do without problem, oh people will say you can. Then read a post of a person that lost 9 out of 10 of their turkey, what did they tell me.......yep guy told them sure you can keep them with chicken. had one tested yep blackhead guess what carry blackhead with no harm to them CHICKEN.
Yep more than one way........but a heck alot more risk one way.
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