French frogs

[Tumbling K]

Seriously?!?!?

Impatient men... I was in mid post on a phone!

You act like this is news to you.

Or that you thought the men on this thread were any different than the ones you know in real life.

Lol

Yes, I'm sure I earned one.

 

[FridayYet]

Seriously?!?!?

Impatient men... I was in mid post on a phone!

Like sideWing, I knew feathering was supposed to be dominant, but sometimes Marans show up with little to no feathers on their legs so........... I waited for you to answer.

 

[sideWing]

Very nice!!

Oh, opps... maybe this is more appropriate...

Yes, if the feathering is fairly heavy... if it's skimpy, then it's hit or miss... plus the 2 different comb types should show a really wonky comb...

Btw, are you giving vitamin supplements to your flocks now that you're hatching? Vitamins started a couple weeks to a month before starting egg collection for hatching helps with more vigorous embryos and chicks...

The feathering is heavy on the roo so I'm hoping they will have shank feathers IF they are his.

Seriously?!?!?

Impatient men... I was in mid post on a phone!

Just like most men I still hadn't figured it out. I just asked a clarifying question!

I read that if the parent has only one copy of the gene than 50% of the offspring can be clean legged. So that's incomplete dominant right? And how could a pure Marans have only one copy? It would have one from his dad and one from his mom. So I'm guessing that any of his offspring should have some feathered shanks even if the mama is clean legged.

ETA: What kind of vitamins do you use?

 

[Ravynscroft]

Rayvn! Walnut! A little help here?

I have learned that Pti-1 is dominant and that Pti-1 is supposedly the feathered leg gene in Marans. What I'm not sure of is if you can get a zero doeses of the gene from a parent with 1 dose of Pti-1 and a parent with zero Pti-1.

Wait... actually, I totally forgot about this... you just might get non-feathered crosses...

I am working on some Ohiki that have feather stubs and 1 hen who is HEAVILY feathered... but her chicks she throws anywhere from 50/50 clean legged/feathered and 75/25 clean legged/feathered...

So I think it is possible... date your eggs as collected and when you hatche put groups of 3 in fruit/veggie containers and check them as the hatch... if any are 'unsure' simply cull as mixes...

 

[scflock]

Very nice!!

Oh, opps... maybe this is more appropriate...
Yes, if the feathering is fairly heavy... if it's skimpy, then it's hit or miss... plus the 2 different comb types should show a really wonky comb...

Btw, are you giving vitamin supplements to your flocks now that you're hatching? Vitamins started a couple weeks to a month before starting egg collection for hatching helps with more vigorous embryos and chicks...

Couple weeks, no, but Amazon Prime delivered today

Seriously?!?!?

Impatient men... I was in mid post on a phone!

 

[sideWing]

Wait... actually, I totally forgot about this... you just might get non-feathered crosses...

I am working on some Ohiki that have feather stubs and 1 hen who is HEAVILY feathered... but her chicks she throws anywhere from 50/50 clean legged/feathered and 75/25 clean legged/feathered...

So I think it is possible... date your eggs as collected and when you hatche put groups of 3 in fruit/veggie containers and check them as the hatch... if any are 'unsure' simply cull as mixes...

 

[sideWing]

Wait... actually, I totally forgot about this... you just might get non-feathered crosses...

I am working on some Ohiki that have feather stubs and 1 hen who is HEAVILY feathered... but her chicks she throws anywhere from 50/50 clean legged/feathered and 75/25 clean legged/feathered...

So I think it is possible... date your eggs as collected and when you hatche put groups of 3 in fruit/veggie containers and check them as the hatch... if any are 'unsure' simply cull as mixes...

I guess the other thing to do would be to raise it long enough to see if it has any lacing. Even one dose of lacing should produce incomplete lacing right? The SLW roo is also obviously Silver and that will either show up or not right? Does S Silver express over E black?

 

[Ravynscroft]

The feathering is heavy on the roo so I'm hoping they will have shank feathers IF they are his.

Just like most men I still hadn't figured it out. I just asked a clarifying question! 

I read that if the parent has only one copy of the gene than 50% of the offspring can be clean legged. So that's incomplete dominant right? And how could a pure Marans have only one copy? It would have one from his dad and one from his mom. So I'm guessing that any of his offspring should have some feathered shanks even if the mama is clean legged. 

ETA: What kind of vitamins do you use?

How can a pure Marans only carry 1 copy? Same as a pure Am can carry only 1 blue egg gene... ask SC...

If there was at any point some bred in with only a single copy, that could still be floating down the breeding line for many generations... if each generation isn't test mated then there is no way to tell unless you test mate...

Vitamins for the flock I use Red Cell/Magic Cell diluted in their water... get a gallon and dilute maybe an 1/8th of a cup in a gallon and split that between 10 gallons...

 

[Ravynscroft]

Couple weeks, no, but Amazon Prime delivered today

Nutridrench for the chicks... Red Cell or Magic Cell for the flock...

 

[Ravynscroft]

I guess the other thing to do would be to raise it long enough to see if it has any lacing. Even one dose of lacing should produce incomplete lacing right? The SLW roo is also obviously Silver and that will either show up or not right? Does S Silver express over E black?

You should have at least silver leakage... possibly red leakage from the roo too...