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I will start by saying that in "VERYMILD CASES" you can use things such as Raw apple Cider Vinegs such as Braggs(no Heinz) or Oregano Oil with a Carbonal rating of 60 or better, or Oxine drops in water(NO METAL CONTAINERS). The ONLY issue you may have is that this also kills GOOD Bacteria so at the min. make sure you have Grass around for them to eat. I WOULD NOT ADVISE YOUGURT UNLESS YOU CAN FIND THE VEGAN ONE WHICH HAS NO SUGAR,NO DAIRY,& MOST IMP. NO SUGAR! CHICKENS CANNOT HANDLE THE DAIRY & IT WILL UPSET THEIR STOMACHS. IF YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEMPT THIS THEN THE BEST STORE BOUGHT IS GOING TO BE THE GREEK PLAIN. SUGAR/CORN/SEED/CARBS//GRAIN ARE YOUR ENEMY IN THAT ORDER!!!
OK,AFTER "2 YRS" OF RESEARCHING,LOOSING HENS(HUMANELY PUT THEM DOWN) I HAVE FINALLY FOUND A CURE!
IN MILD OR SEVERE CASES OF CROP FUNGUS OR INTESTINAL.. THIS IS NO OVERNIGHT CURE IN "SEVERE" CASES & YOU WILL STILL SPEND A LOT OF TIME INITIALLY CARING FOR THEM. ONCE YOU HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL & GET A PATTERN IT WILL GET EASIER. IF your hen has been aspirating for sometime & has gurgled breathing& has thickened fibrotic tissue at the bottom of neck-crop entry ADMINISTER THE 1./4 tab of the 200mg IBUPROFIN ASAP!!!(FOR 5-8LB. HEN) YOU MAY NEED TO CONSIDER GIVING A TETRACYCLINE INJECTION OF 1.2CC( EVERY OTHER DAY) FOR AT LEAST 5 DAYS (which will equal 10 days of treatment). I HAD A SEVERE CASE &INFECTION HAD BUILT UP WITHIN THE LAYERS OF FUNGUS/THICKENED TISSUE. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT ANTI'S ARE USUALLY NOT GOOD FOR FUNGAL BUT BEFORE I EVEN HAD ALL OF THIS OTHER INFO. THIS IS HOW I TREATED (ALONG WITH REMOVING CORN,SEED,CARBS,ANYTHING WITH SUGAR) & I GOT THEM BETTER SEVERAL TIMES. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW I HAD MOLD SO IT KEPT COMING BACK. WITH MY OLDEST HEN I HAD TO ADMINISTER THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH IBUPROFIN FOR 4 DAYS. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL QUICKLY(WITHIN 4-5HOURS) IF THE TETRACYCLINE IS A PLUS OR NEG. MY HENS CROP WAS WALLED OFF ON ONE SIDE WITH A MASS OF FUNGUS-THICKENED SWOLLEN CROP WALL. TETRACYCLINE HAS A DRYING AFFECT & THE ASPIRATION INTO THE LUNGS HAD CAUSED AN INFECTION!
IF YOUR HEN IS ASPIRATING(may also see nasal dripping or dripping from roof of mouth when open),SCRATCHING THEIR FACE, has a squishy Crop, lumps in crop wall, smelly breath, crop farting, excessive white-slimy fecals, excessive wet-slimy mouth, distended abdomen( may even see a bit of blue in comb if abdomen related), Then you are more than likely dealing with a fungal infection!
You will also notice the hen is loosing weight & it isn't just from a lack of eating. They can still eat & be very skinny & this is due to the FUNGUS Feeding off the Food!
I'm going to try to do this in a list format of things to avoid & tools needed & then try to give the best -shortest verbal as I can. IF YOU WOULD LIKE FEEL FREE TO WRITE ME WITH YOUR SPECIFICS SO I CAN ADDRESS YOUR HENS SITUATION AS AN INDIVIDUAL. I HAVE WORKED WITH AN AVIAN VET BUT TO BE HONEST "SOME" OF HER INFO. WASN'T GOOD ESPEC. WHEN ITS A TIME CRUNCH! THE BEST INFO. I DID RECEIVE WAS IBUPROFIN!!!
THINGS YOU WILL NEED!.("ORGANIC" COCONUT OIL/CAPRYLIC TABS,& PROBIOTIC(NO SUGAR/DO NOT GIVE CAPSULE AS WHOLE SEE BELOW! GOT AT SPROUTS MARKET)
IBUPROFIN TABS 200MG (CUT INTO QUARTERS 1/4 MORN& EVE ADMINISTER ASAP!)
1 BOTTLE OF CAPRYLIC ACID TABS( I USED BRAND NAME"SOLGAR" DUE TO ITS MG. STRENGTH & LACK OF EXCESS MINERALS. THE CALSIUM/MAGNESIUM IN THIS WAS GOOD ESPEC. WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T EAT OYSTER SHELL)
1 JUG OF "ORGANIC" COCONUT OIL(I USED JARROWS EXTRA VIRGIN) ORGANIC IS IMPORTANT DUE TO THE LACK OF HEAT PROCESSING WHICH WILL AFFECT THE CAPRYLIC ACID IT CONTAINS. IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD BOTH THEN I WOULD JUST GO WITH THE TABS,CRUSH INTO POWDER,& ADD TO FISH OIL OR EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL.
"FRESH FISH" IF YOU CAN GET IT FOR AT LEAST 1 WEEK. the frozen I bought initially(had to squeeze water out in both) worked initially but I realized when they were 80% better something was a hindering progress. I realized the frozen was packed with salt & even with squeezing I wasn't able to abstract enough of it. once I switched to fresh I seen a big diff. within 48hrs!
"FRESH CUT" UNFERTILIZED GRASS!!! PREFERABLY THE THICK BLADE STUFF THEY CALL "PLAYGROUND". ITS EASIER TO SWALLOW& DIGEST,& IT CREATES "BACILLUS PLANTARIUM" THIS SUFFOCATES THE FUNGUS & ALLOWS THE HEN TO GET HER WATER WHILE ITS BEING DIGESTED!!! BETTER TO CUT LONG & THEN CUT UP WITH SCISSORS. YOU CAN KEEP THE GRASS IN A OPEN BAG WITH A FEW PIECES OF PAPER TOWEL MIXED IN FOR 2-3 DAYS BUT WOULDN'T GO LONGER! NEED TO KEEP MOISTURE OFF OF STORING GRASS OR YOU GET FUNGUS! FORCING WATER ON A BLOATED CROP DOES 2 THINGS: INCREASES CHANCES OF ASPIRATING INTO LUNGS/FEEDS FUNGUS!!! FUNGUS THRIVES ON MOISTURE & IS COMPRISED OF 50% WATER!!. IT NEEDS WATER TO SURVIVE!
DIRT BATHS!!!! YOUR HEN WILL DEFINITELY WANT THIS & MAY EVEN TRY EATING THE DIRT!!! I THINK ITS A WAY THEY TRY TO DRY UP THE FUNGUS. ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT YOU WILL NEED TO MIST-SPRAY THESE AREAS WITH YOUR OXINE MIX OR BLEACH MIX/MIX DIRT. IF IT ISN'T HOT ENOUGH FOR IT TO DRY OUT THEN I WOULD JUST TRY TO DO A LIGHT MIST & GIVE IT 24HRS. OF COURSE PICK UP FECALS.
A GOOD PROBIOTIC LIKE " FLORA-UDO'S CHOICE" IS WHAT I USED. IT HAS NO SUGAR BUT DOES HAVE A RICE CAPSULE WHICH YOU "DO NOT" WANT THEM TO EAT!!! RICE IS A CARB! THE REASON WHY I PICKED THIS ONE WAS BECAUSE IT HAD "4" GOOD PROBIOTICS / LACKED SUGAR IN ITS INGREDIENTS.
IF THEY DON'T CARRY THIS BRAND THEN THE TOP 3 YOU "REALLY WANT" IS LACTOBACILLUS ACIDOPHILUS,BACILLUS PLANTARIUM,& BACILLUS SUBSTILIS(WHICH I FOUND THIS ONE AT FEED STORE IN PACKETS CALLED "SAVE A CHICK". DO NOT FEEL YOU NEED TO GIVE IN WATER!!! IN ADDITION TO MAKING SMALL BATCHES OF WATER & SPRINKLED SOME IN I MIXED IT IN TO THE HENS FOOD TO BE CONSUMED "PROMPTLY". PROBIOTICS MUST BE KEPT COLD OR THEY DIE. I ACTUALLY PLACED COLD PACKS UNDER THE GLASS WATER CONTAINER(ITS BEEN HOT HERE) & KEPT IN SHADE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. DON'T WASTE YOUR PROS. ALSO STIRRING UP WITH CLEAN FINGER SCRAPING BOTTOM OF CONTAINER WILL KEEP THE PROS. CIRCULATING. THEY TEND TO STICK TO BOTTOM. DO NOT USE METAL!
WHATEVER PRODUCT YOU CHOOSE JUST MAKE SURE IT HAS NO SUGAR & NOT A BUNCH OF MINERALS.
I FOUND THAT GIVING MY HENS THEIR VITAMIN/ELECTROLYTE MIXED IN SEEMED TO AGGRAVATE THEIR CONDITION & I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WAS THE ELECTROLYTE MAKES THEM RETAIN WATER SO THERE FOR THE FUNGUS WILL THRIVE! FISH OIL IS GREAT & IT HAS AMINO ACIDS & FATS. THIS IS WHY THE COCONUT OIL IS FANTASTIC FOR AN EMACIATED HEN. THE FATS GIVE THEM THE NECESSARY ENERGY TO FIGHT SO EVEN IF THEY WON'T EAT MUCH THIS WILL HELP! YOU WILL ALSO NEED TO DO LIGHT MASSAGING OF THE CROP!!! NO SQUEEZING THE LUMPS! YOU WILL GENTLY PRESS DOWNWARD AT THE TOP OF THE CROP(ESPEC. WHILE EATING). THIS WILL HELP THEM EAT MORE BY SHIFTING THE CONTENTS DOWNWARD BUT DON'T LET THEM GO OVER 1/2 FULL TO START. THEY USUALLY KNOW BETTER. I ALSO FOUND THAT MY HENS WOULD ACTUALLY EAT THE COCONUT OIL CHUNKS & EVEN THE DARN QUARTER OF IBUFROFIN TAB!!! THEY REALIZE IT HELPS THEM SO AFTER A FEW DAYS THEY LEARN QUICK!
YOU DO NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR HEN TO AN EXTENT. YOU MAY NEED TO CAREFULLY FORCE FEED THE FISH MIXTURE(II actually broke up sm. pieces of layer pellet & mixed in with fish & coated with coconut oil,crushed caprylic acid tabs,& a few drops of fish oil).. IF YOU ARE GOING TO STICK WITH LAYER PELLET I CAN ONLY ADVISE TO coat it with what I just mentioned & MAKE SURE you break the Pellet up into smaller pieces. The digestion of whole pellet will create more work-inflammation on the crop. AS A FYI I FOUND OUT THAT THE LAYER PELLETS 2ND. ING. IS CORN! THE MEATBIRD(which states its higher in protein) ITS PRIMARY ING. IS CORN! ****** ME OFF! WHEN YOU GET THE OILS ON IT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CORN LIGHTS UP LIKE NEON SIGNS.
FINALLY,DAILY,DAILY SPRAYING OF BLEACH MIXTURE IN COOP AREAS,KEEPING POOP CLEANED UP,WIPING OFF ROOST. THE POOP WILL STILL CONTAIN FUNGUS ALONG WITH THEIR SCRATCHING,COUGHING,WIPING OF BEAKS ON ROOST& FEATHERS. WHEN THE MUCUS WAS REALLY BAD I WOULD WIPE THEIR NECK AREAS/CROP FEATHER AREAS WITH ALCOHOL/WATER MIXTURE(ESPEC. IF IN CONTACT WITH OTHERS) I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE GRASS,GRASS,GRASS! I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH OF THIS THICK BLADED GRASS THEY WOULD CONSUME. THE UNBELIEVABLE PART IS WITHIN 5-10MIN YOU WILL SEE THE CROP SIZE COME DOWN CONSIDERABLY!!! IT MAY TAKE A FEW DAYS OF TREATING WITH THE COCONUT OIL/CAPRYLIC ACID-PROBIOTICS BUT YOU WILL SEE THEM CONSUME MORE& MORE! ON AVG. 1 HEN IS EATING 1.5 CUPS IN 1 DAY. I GIVE IT PERIODIC THROUGHOUT THE DAY & IN THE EVE I SNEAK OUT BEFORE I GO TO BED & LEAVE CHOPPED GRASS ON A PLATE IN THE COOP SO IN THE MORN. THEY HAVE IT 1ST. THING(UNLESS YOU AREA EARLY RISER & CAN GO OUT TO GIVE IT TO THEM). FREE RANGING IS BEST IN THIS SITUATION BUT IF EXTREMELY WEAK OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL NEED TO BRING THEM IN,PUT IN TUB,& BRING WHAT THEY NEED TO THEM.
I PRETTY MUCH COVERED THIS BUT THINGS TO AVOID!!!
SUGAR,CORN,CARBS(RICE,SEED,& EVEN SOME VEGI'S!),GARLIC(IS ACTUALLY POISONOUS & KILLS BOTH GOOD/BAD BACTERIA)
BEFORE GIVING ANYTHING READ,READ,READ! LOOK AT WHAT ITS COMPRISED OF. I THOUGHT CARROTS WERE GOOD(VITAMIN A IS A BIG +). SHE WENT FOR IT AT FIRST ALONG WITH THE CROOKNECK SQUASH/ZUCCHINI BUT THEN NOTICED SHE STARTED TO REFRAIN. I LOOKED AT THE CARROTS & YES THEY HAVE SUGAR.
THE SQUASH YOU CAN TRY. CUTTING INTO SMALL PIECES & COOKING 1/2 WAY BUT TRY SQUEEZING SOME OF THAT WATER OUT. IT HAS GREAT NATURAL ANTI-INFLAMATORY PROPERTIES & HIGH IN VITAMIN A.
THE BAD IS THE WATER CONTENT & DOES CONTAIN SM. AMTS. OF SUGAR. YOU MAY NEED TO UTILIZE THIS WHEN THINGS ARE AT ITS WORST BECAUSE ITS MUCH EASIER TO DIGEST. STRESS,STRESS,STRESS!
STRESS WILL ALSO CAUSE THIS PROBLEM TO LINGER. STRESS FACTORS,EXCESSIVE HEAT(ESPEC. HUMIDITY),OTHER FLOCK MEMBERS PICKING ON THEM & IN MY SITUATION I COULD ONLY KEEP MY WORST HEN IN FOR 7 DAYS. ONCE SHE STARTED TO GET A LITTLE BETTER SHE WANTED OUT. THIS YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE CALL ON. THE PROBLEM LIES WITH INFECTING OTHERS. IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE I HAD TO LET HER OUT SINCE IT WAS OBVIOUS IT WAS CAUSING A PROBLEM.. WINTER IS WORSE DUE TO MOISTURE/COLD. IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO BRING THEM IN OR PUT THEM IN A BARN(FOR EXAMPLE) TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM THE MOIST AIR ESPEC. IF ITS RAIINING. YOU DON'T WANT THEM DRINKING MUDDY RAIN WATER!
THIS IS WHY THE FISH IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT HAS HIGH PROTEIN & EASY ON THE CROP WALL. I FIND WHAT WORKS WELL IS TO INITIALLY COOK IT IN MICRO,SQUEEZE WATER OUT,THEN THROW IT BACK IN FOR 10SECS & LET IT SIT ON COUNTER FOR 5-10MIN. SOME OF THE EXCESS MOISTURE WILL EVAPORATE & THEN WHEN COOLED ADD YOUR CAPRYLIC ACID CRUMBLED POWDER, COCONUT.OIL,SM. AMTS. OF LAYER PELLET BROKEN OR WHATEVER ELSE "YOU CHOOSE"! I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT FINALLY WORKED FOR ME & ONE WAS A 12yo HEN & THE OTHER WAS A HEN WITH PRIMARILY INTESTINAL FUNGUS-YEAST(PER INITIAL TESTING)! HOWEVER I NOTICED THAT BOTH THIS HEN/ROOSTER STARTED GETTING A BIT OF SQUISHY CROP/SM. LUMP IN THE VERY CORNER OF THE CROP-HIGH UP(THE CORNERS PROVIDE A NICE MOIST GROWING MEDIUM FOR THE FUNGUS).
WELL I HOPE THIS LESSENS YOUR FRUSTRATION/SUFFERING! I'M A STUBBORN ITALIAN LADY WHO LOVES HER CHICKENS. I SPENT OVER$100 ON ITRACONAZOLE WHICH DID INITIALLY HELP A LOT BUT I WON'T GO INTO THE LONG STORY. IN SHORT SAD TO SAY I BELIEVE THE PHARMACIST(AT ROOD RIDDLE) EITHER SPIKED MY LAST BOTTLE WITH SUGAR OR ADDED EXTRA FLAVORING WHICH HAD SUGAR IN IT. IT THREW HER INTO A 360. IN SHORT HE WAS UPSET HE HAD TO REBATCH A BOTTLE FOR FREE DUE TO THE AVIAN VET/HIM DECIDING TO UP THE PH. AT THE TIME OF COMPOUNDING & IT DISINTEGRATED THE DRUG. I THINK THAT IF I WOULD HAVE STARTED WITH ALL OF THIS VS THE DRUG I WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THIS SITUATION WEEKS AGO!
GOOD LUCK & GOD BLESS! DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS. THIS WAS VERY FRUSTRATING HAVING TO FIGURE OUT 90% OF THIS ON MY OWN FROM TONS OF RESEARCH/READING!!
THE LITTLE EXTRAS AFTER EATING THAT WILL HELP MOVE THINGS ALONG IF DEDICATED!
IN EVE WHEN THEY ARE ON THEIR ROOST GIVE THEM EACH AT LEAST 1/4 C OF THE CUT UP GRASS( YOU CAN EVEN SPRINKLE A LITTLE OF THE PROBIOTIC CONTENTS ON IT)
A COUPLE OF SM. CHUNKS OF THE COCONUT OIL IN SOLID FORM(THEY SHOULD GOBBLE IT RIGHT UP OFF YOUR PLATTER & YOU WANT EACH TO HAVE THEIR OWN TO AVOID CROSS CONTAMINATION SINCE THEY TEND TO DROP)
GIVE IT A COUPLE OF MINS TO MELT IN CROP THEN GENTLY MASSAGE CROP SO IT GETS MIXED AROUND & COATS THE ENTIRE CROP WALL(ESPEC IF YOU HAVE ONE THAT HAS 1 SIDE INFLAMED-LUMPY). THIS ALLOWS IT TO SIT OVERNIGHT & DO ITS WORK!
LAST. IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE BUGS HIDING(EVEN SLUGS YUCK!) SHOW THIS TO YOUR WORST HENS. YOU MAY NEED TO EVEN PUT THEM IN A CONTAINER & FEED LITTLE BY LITTLE. DUE TO THEIR CONDITION THEY WON'T EAT FAST & MAY EVEN TENDERIZE THE BUG BEFORE SWALLOWING OR DROP/PICK UP SEVERAL TIMES. BY THEN YOUR BUG STASH HAS RAN FOR COVER. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY BUT THE WORST HEN WHO NORMALLY WOULD NOT EAT A STINK BUG(BIG BLACK BEETLES) WENT BONKERS FOR THEM. IN FACT STOPPED EATING EARWIGS(SHE WOULD GO THROUGH A LOT OF SLAPPING/BREAKING UP OF THEM BEFORE EATING & ONLY WOULD EAT 5-10). IF I SHOWED HER A BEETLE SHE WENT CRAZY & THERE WAS NO PREPPING! LOL
I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF ANTI-INFLAM. PROPERTY THERE & SHE WOULD EAT AS MANY AS I COULD GIVE HER!
OK,AFTER "2 YRS" OF RESEARCHING,LOOSING HENS(HUMANELY PUT THEM DOWN) I HAVE FINALLY FOUND A CURE!
IN MILD OR SEVERE CASES OF CROP FUNGUS OR INTESTINAL.. THIS IS NO OVERNIGHT CURE IN "SEVERE" CASES & YOU WILL STILL SPEND A LOT OF TIME INITIALLY CARING FOR THEM. ONCE YOU HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL & GET A PATTERN IT WILL GET EASIER. IF your hen has been aspirating for sometime & has gurgled breathing& has thickened fibrotic tissue at the bottom of neck-crop entry ADMINISTER THE 1./4 tab of the 200mg IBUPROFIN ASAP!!!(FOR 5-8LB. HEN) YOU MAY NEED TO CONSIDER GIVING A TETRACYCLINE INJECTION OF 1.2CC( EVERY OTHER DAY) FOR AT LEAST 5 DAYS (which will equal 10 days of treatment). I HAD A SEVERE CASE &INFECTION HAD BUILT UP WITHIN THE LAYERS OF FUNGUS/THICKENED TISSUE. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT ANTI'S ARE USUALLY NOT GOOD FOR FUNGAL BUT BEFORE I EVEN HAD ALL OF THIS OTHER INFO. THIS IS HOW I TREATED (ALONG WITH REMOVING CORN,SEED,CARBS,ANYTHING WITH SUGAR) & I GOT THEM BETTER SEVERAL TIMES. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW I HAD MOLD SO IT KEPT COMING BACK. WITH MY OLDEST HEN I HAD TO ADMINISTER THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH IBUPROFIN FOR 4 DAYS. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL QUICKLY(WITHIN 4-5HOURS) IF THE TETRACYCLINE IS A PLUS OR NEG. MY HENS CROP WAS WALLED OFF ON ONE SIDE WITH A MASS OF FUNGUS-THICKENED SWOLLEN CROP WALL. TETRACYCLINE HAS A DRYING AFFECT & THE ASPIRATION INTO THE LUNGS HAD CAUSED AN INFECTION!
IF YOUR HEN IS ASPIRATING(may also see nasal dripping or dripping from roof of mouth when open),SCRATCHING THEIR FACE, has a squishy Crop, lumps in crop wall, smelly breath, crop farting, excessive white-slimy fecals, excessive wet-slimy mouth, distended abdomen( may even see a bit of blue in comb if abdomen related), Then you are more than likely dealing with a fungal infection!
You will also notice the hen is loosing weight & it isn't just from a lack of eating. They can still eat & be very skinny & this is due to the FUNGUS Feeding off the Food!
I'm going to try to do this in a list format of things to avoid & tools needed & then try to give the best -shortest verbal as I can. IF YOU WOULD LIKE FEEL FREE TO WRITE ME WITH YOUR SPECIFICS SO I CAN ADDRESS YOUR HENS SITUATION AS AN INDIVIDUAL. I HAVE WORKED WITH AN AVIAN VET BUT TO BE HONEST "SOME" OF HER INFO. WASN'T GOOD ESPEC. WHEN ITS A TIME CRUNCH! THE BEST INFO. I DID RECEIVE WAS IBUPROFIN!!!
THINGS YOU WILL NEED!.("ORGANIC" COCONUT OIL/CAPRYLIC TABS,& PROBIOTIC(NO SUGAR/DO NOT GIVE CAPSULE AS WHOLE SEE BELOW! GOT AT SPROUTS MARKET)
IBUPROFIN TABS 200MG (CUT INTO QUARTERS 1/4 MORN& EVE ADMINISTER ASAP!)
1 BOTTLE OF CAPRYLIC ACID TABS( I USED BRAND NAME"SOLGAR" DUE TO ITS MG. STRENGTH & LACK OF EXCESS MINERALS. THE CALSIUM/MAGNESIUM IN THIS WAS GOOD ESPEC. WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T EAT OYSTER SHELL)
1 JUG OF "ORGANIC" COCONUT OIL(I USED JARROWS EXTRA VIRGIN) ORGANIC IS IMPORTANT DUE TO THE LACK OF HEAT PROCESSING WHICH WILL AFFECT THE CAPRYLIC ACID IT CONTAINS. IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD BOTH THEN I WOULD JUST GO WITH THE TABS,CRUSH INTO POWDER,& ADD TO FISH OIL OR EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL.
"FRESH FISH" IF YOU CAN GET IT FOR AT LEAST 1 WEEK. the frozen I bought initially(had to squeeze water out in both) worked initially but I realized when they were 80% better something was a hindering progress. I realized the frozen was packed with salt & even with squeezing I wasn't able to abstract enough of it. once I switched to fresh I seen a big diff. within 48hrs!
"FRESH CUT" UNFERTILIZED GRASS!!! PREFERABLY THE THICK BLADE STUFF THEY CALL "PLAYGROUND". ITS EASIER TO SWALLOW& DIGEST,& IT CREATES "BACILLUS PLANTARIUM" THIS SUFFOCATES THE FUNGUS & ALLOWS THE HEN TO GET HER WATER WHILE ITS BEING DIGESTED!!! BETTER TO CUT LONG & THEN CUT UP WITH SCISSORS. YOU CAN KEEP THE GRASS IN A OPEN BAG WITH A FEW PIECES OF PAPER TOWEL MIXED IN FOR 2-3 DAYS BUT WOULDN'T GO LONGER! NEED TO KEEP MOISTURE OFF OF STORING GRASS OR YOU GET FUNGUS! FORCING WATER ON A BLOATED CROP DOES 2 THINGS: INCREASES CHANCES OF ASPIRATING INTO LUNGS/FEEDS FUNGUS!!! FUNGUS THRIVES ON MOISTURE & IS COMPRISED OF 50% WATER!!. IT NEEDS WATER TO SURVIVE!
DIRT BATHS!!!! YOUR HEN WILL DEFINITELY WANT THIS & MAY EVEN TRY EATING THE DIRT!!! I THINK ITS A WAY THEY TRY TO DRY UP THE FUNGUS. ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT YOU WILL NEED TO MIST-SPRAY THESE AREAS WITH YOUR OXINE MIX OR BLEACH MIX/MIX DIRT. IF IT ISN'T HOT ENOUGH FOR IT TO DRY OUT THEN I WOULD JUST TRY TO DO A LIGHT MIST & GIVE IT 24HRS. OF COURSE PICK UP FECALS.
A GOOD PROBIOTIC LIKE " FLORA-UDO'S CHOICE" IS WHAT I USED. IT HAS NO SUGAR BUT DOES HAVE A RICE CAPSULE WHICH YOU "DO NOT" WANT THEM TO EAT!!! RICE IS A CARB! THE REASON WHY I PICKED THIS ONE WAS BECAUSE IT HAD "4" GOOD PROBIOTICS / LACKED SUGAR IN ITS INGREDIENTS.
IF THEY DON'T CARRY THIS BRAND THEN THE TOP 3 YOU "REALLY WANT" IS LACTOBACILLUS ACIDOPHILUS,BACILLUS PLANTARIUM,& BACILLUS SUBSTILIS(WHICH I FOUND THIS ONE AT FEED STORE IN PACKETS CALLED "SAVE A CHICK". DO NOT FEEL YOU NEED TO GIVE IN WATER!!! IN ADDITION TO MAKING SMALL BATCHES OF WATER & SPRINKLED SOME IN I MIXED IT IN TO THE HENS FOOD TO BE CONSUMED "PROMPTLY". PROBIOTICS MUST BE KEPT COLD OR THEY DIE. I ACTUALLY PLACED COLD PACKS UNDER THE GLASS WATER CONTAINER(ITS BEEN HOT HERE) & KEPT IN SHADE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. DON'T WASTE YOUR PROS. ALSO STIRRING UP WITH CLEAN FINGER SCRAPING BOTTOM OF CONTAINER WILL KEEP THE PROS. CIRCULATING. THEY TEND TO STICK TO BOTTOM. DO NOT USE METAL!
WHATEVER PRODUCT YOU CHOOSE JUST MAKE SURE IT HAS NO SUGAR & NOT A BUNCH OF MINERALS.
I FOUND THAT GIVING MY HENS THEIR VITAMIN/ELECTROLYTE MIXED IN SEEMED TO AGGRAVATE THEIR CONDITION & I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WAS THE ELECTROLYTE MAKES THEM RETAIN WATER SO THERE FOR THE FUNGUS WILL THRIVE! FISH OIL IS GREAT & IT HAS AMINO ACIDS & FATS. THIS IS WHY THE COCONUT OIL IS FANTASTIC FOR AN EMACIATED HEN. THE FATS GIVE THEM THE NECESSARY ENERGY TO FIGHT SO EVEN IF THEY WON'T EAT MUCH THIS WILL HELP! YOU WILL ALSO NEED TO DO LIGHT MASSAGING OF THE CROP!!! NO SQUEEZING THE LUMPS! YOU WILL GENTLY PRESS DOWNWARD AT THE TOP OF THE CROP(ESPEC. WHILE EATING). THIS WILL HELP THEM EAT MORE BY SHIFTING THE CONTENTS DOWNWARD BUT DON'T LET THEM GO OVER 1/2 FULL TO START. THEY USUALLY KNOW BETTER. I ALSO FOUND THAT MY HENS WOULD ACTUALLY EAT THE COCONUT OIL CHUNKS & EVEN THE DARN QUARTER OF IBUFROFIN TAB!!! THEY REALIZE IT HELPS THEM SO AFTER A FEW DAYS THEY LEARN QUICK!
YOU DO NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR HEN TO AN EXTENT. YOU MAY NEED TO CAREFULLY FORCE FEED THE FISH MIXTURE(II actually broke up sm. pieces of layer pellet & mixed in with fish & coated with coconut oil,crushed caprylic acid tabs,& a few drops of fish oil).. IF YOU ARE GOING TO STICK WITH LAYER PELLET I CAN ONLY ADVISE TO coat it with what I just mentioned & MAKE SURE you break the Pellet up into smaller pieces. The digestion of whole pellet will create more work-inflammation on the crop. AS A FYI I FOUND OUT THAT THE LAYER PELLETS 2ND. ING. IS CORN! THE MEATBIRD(which states its higher in protein) ITS PRIMARY ING. IS CORN! ****** ME OFF! WHEN YOU GET THE OILS ON IT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CORN LIGHTS UP LIKE NEON SIGNS.
FINALLY,DAILY,DAILY SPRAYING OF BLEACH MIXTURE IN COOP AREAS,KEEPING POOP CLEANED UP,WIPING OFF ROOST. THE POOP WILL STILL CONTAIN FUNGUS ALONG WITH THEIR SCRATCHING,COUGHING,WIPING OF BEAKS ON ROOST& FEATHERS. WHEN THE MUCUS WAS REALLY BAD I WOULD WIPE THEIR NECK AREAS/CROP FEATHER AREAS WITH ALCOHOL/WATER MIXTURE(ESPEC. IF IN CONTACT WITH OTHERS) I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE GRASS,GRASS,GRASS! I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH OF THIS THICK BLADED GRASS THEY WOULD CONSUME. THE UNBELIEVABLE PART IS WITHIN 5-10MIN YOU WILL SEE THE CROP SIZE COME DOWN CONSIDERABLY!!! IT MAY TAKE A FEW DAYS OF TREATING WITH THE COCONUT OIL/CAPRYLIC ACID-PROBIOTICS BUT YOU WILL SEE THEM CONSUME MORE& MORE! ON AVG. 1 HEN IS EATING 1.5 CUPS IN 1 DAY. I GIVE IT PERIODIC THROUGHOUT THE DAY & IN THE EVE I SNEAK OUT BEFORE I GO TO BED & LEAVE CHOPPED GRASS ON A PLATE IN THE COOP SO IN THE MORN. THEY HAVE IT 1ST. THING(UNLESS YOU AREA EARLY RISER & CAN GO OUT TO GIVE IT TO THEM). FREE RANGING IS BEST IN THIS SITUATION BUT IF EXTREMELY WEAK OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL NEED TO BRING THEM IN,PUT IN TUB,& BRING WHAT THEY NEED TO THEM.
I PRETTY MUCH COVERED THIS BUT THINGS TO AVOID!!!
SUGAR,CORN,CARBS(RICE,SEED,& EVEN SOME VEGI'S!),GARLIC(IS ACTUALLY POISONOUS & KILLS BOTH GOOD/BAD BACTERIA)
BEFORE GIVING ANYTHING READ,READ,READ! LOOK AT WHAT ITS COMPRISED OF. I THOUGHT CARROTS WERE GOOD(VITAMIN A IS A BIG +). SHE WENT FOR IT AT FIRST ALONG WITH THE CROOKNECK SQUASH/ZUCCHINI BUT THEN NOTICED SHE STARTED TO REFRAIN. I LOOKED AT THE CARROTS & YES THEY HAVE SUGAR.
THE SQUASH YOU CAN TRY. CUTTING INTO SMALL PIECES & COOKING 1/2 WAY BUT TRY SQUEEZING SOME OF THAT WATER OUT. IT HAS GREAT NATURAL ANTI-INFLAMATORY PROPERTIES & HIGH IN VITAMIN A.
THE BAD IS THE WATER CONTENT & DOES CONTAIN SM. AMTS. OF SUGAR. YOU MAY NEED TO UTILIZE THIS WHEN THINGS ARE AT ITS WORST BECAUSE ITS MUCH EASIER TO DIGEST. STRESS,STRESS,STRESS!
STRESS WILL ALSO CAUSE THIS PROBLEM TO LINGER. STRESS FACTORS,EXCESSIVE HEAT(ESPEC. HUMIDITY),OTHER FLOCK MEMBERS PICKING ON THEM & IN MY SITUATION I COULD ONLY KEEP MY WORST HEN IN FOR 7 DAYS. ONCE SHE STARTED TO GET A LITTLE BETTER SHE WANTED OUT. THIS YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE CALL ON. THE PROBLEM LIES WITH INFECTING OTHERS. IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE I HAD TO LET HER OUT SINCE IT WAS OBVIOUS IT WAS CAUSING A PROBLEM.. WINTER IS WORSE DUE TO MOISTURE/COLD. IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO BRING THEM IN OR PUT THEM IN A BARN(FOR EXAMPLE) TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM THE MOIST AIR ESPEC. IF ITS RAIINING. YOU DON'T WANT THEM DRINKING MUDDY RAIN WATER!
THIS IS WHY THE FISH IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT HAS HIGH PROTEIN & EASY ON THE CROP WALL. I FIND WHAT WORKS WELL IS TO INITIALLY COOK IT IN MICRO,SQUEEZE WATER OUT,THEN THROW IT BACK IN FOR 10SECS & LET IT SIT ON COUNTER FOR 5-10MIN. SOME OF THE EXCESS MOISTURE WILL EVAPORATE & THEN WHEN COOLED ADD YOUR CAPRYLIC ACID CRUMBLED POWDER, COCONUT.OIL,SM. AMTS. OF LAYER PELLET BROKEN OR WHATEVER ELSE "YOU CHOOSE"! I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT FINALLY WORKED FOR ME & ONE WAS A 12yo HEN & THE OTHER WAS A HEN WITH PRIMARILY INTESTINAL FUNGUS-YEAST(PER INITIAL TESTING)! HOWEVER I NOTICED THAT BOTH THIS HEN/ROOSTER STARTED GETTING A BIT OF SQUISHY CROP/SM. LUMP IN THE VERY CORNER OF THE CROP-HIGH UP(THE CORNERS PROVIDE A NICE MOIST GROWING MEDIUM FOR THE FUNGUS).
WELL I HOPE THIS LESSENS YOUR FRUSTRATION/SUFFERING! I'M A STUBBORN ITALIAN LADY WHO LOVES HER CHICKENS. I SPENT OVER$100 ON ITRACONAZOLE WHICH DID INITIALLY HELP A LOT BUT I WON'T GO INTO THE LONG STORY. IN SHORT SAD TO SAY I BELIEVE THE PHARMACIST(AT ROOD RIDDLE) EITHER SPIKED MY LAST BOTTLE WITH SUGAR OR ADDED EXTRA FLAVORING WHICH HAD SUGAR IN IT. IT THREW HER INTO A 360. IN SHORT HE WAS UPSET HE HAD TO REBATCH A BOTTLE FOR FREE DUE TO THE AVIAN VET/HIM DECIDING TO UP THE PH. AT THE TIME OF COMPOUNDING & IT DISINTEGRATED THE DRUG. I THINK THAT IF I WOULD HAVE STARTED WITH ALL OF THIS VS THE DRUG I WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THIS SITUATION WEEKS AGO!
GOOD LUCK & GOD BLESS! DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS. THIS WAS VERY FRUSTRATING HAVING TO FIGURE OUT 90% OF THIS ON MY OWN FROM TONS OF RESEARCH/READING!!
THE LITTLE EXTRAS AFTER EATING THAT WILL HELP MOVE THINGS ALONG IF DEDICATED!
IN EVE WHEN THEY ARE ON THEIR ROOST GIVE THEM EACH AT LEAST 1/4 C OF THE CUT UP GRASS( YOU CAN EVEN SPRINKLE A LITTLE OF THE PROBIOTIC CONTENTS ON IT)
A COUPLE OF SM. CHUNKS OF THE COCONUT OIL IN SOLID FORM(THEY SHOULD GOBBLE IT RIGHT UP OFF YOUR PLATTER & YOU WANT EACH TO HAVE THEIR OWN TO AVOID CROSS CONTAMINATION SINCE THEY TEND TO DROP)
GIVE IT A COUPLE OF MINS TO MELT IN CROP THEN GENTLY MASSAGE CROP SO IT GETS MIXED AROUND & COATS THE ENTIRE CROP WALL(ESPEC IF YOU HAVE ONE THAT HAS 1 SIDE INFLAMED-LUMPY). THIS ALLOWS IT TO SIT OVERNIGHT & DO ITS WORK!
LAST. IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE BUGS HIDING(EVEN SLUGS YUCK!) SHOW THIS TO YOUR WORST HENS. YOU MAY NEED TO EVEN PUT THEM IN A CONTAINER & FEED LITTLE BY LITTLE. DUE TO THEIR CONDITION THEY WON'T EAT FAST & MAY EVEN TENDERIZE THE BUG BEFORE SWALLOWING OR DROP/PICK UP SEVERAL TIMES. BY THEN YOUR BUG STASH HAS RAN FOR COVER. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY BUT THE WORST HEN WHO NORMALLY WOULD NOT EAT A STINK BUG(BIG BLACK BEETLES) WENT BONKERS FOR THEM. IN FACT STOPPED EATING EARWIGS(SHE WOULD GO THROUGH A LOT OF SLAPPING/BREAKING UP OF THEM BEFORE EATING & ONLY WOULD EAT 5-10). IF I SHOWED HER A BEETLE SHE WENT CRAZY & THERE WAS NO PREPPING! LOL
I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF ANTI-INFLAM. PROPERTY THERE & SHE WOULD EAT AS MANY AS I COULD GIVE HER!
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