FUNGAL CURE LIFE OR DEATH! PLEASE USE THIS VS OTHER POSTS BY ME FOR FUNGAL!

[Chickinlittle1]

I will start by saying that in "VERYMILD CASES" you can use things such as Raw apple Cider Vinegs such as Braggs(no Heinz) or Oregano Oil with a Carbonal rating of 60 or better, or Oxine drops in water(NO METAL CONTAINERS). The ONLY issue you may have is that this also kills GOOD Bacteria so at the min. make sure you have Grass around for them to eat. I WOULD NOT ADVISE YOUGURT UNLESS YOU CAN FIND THE VEGAN ONE WHICH HAS NO SUGAR,NO DAIRY,& MOST IMP. NO SUGAR! CHICKENS CANNOT HANDLE THE DAIRY & IT WILL UPSET THEIR STOMACHS. IF YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEMPT THIS THEN THE BEST STORE BOUGHT IS GOING TO BE THE GREEK PLAIN. SUGAR/CORN/SEED/CARBS//GRAIN ARE YOUR ENEMY IN THAT ORDER!!!

OK,AFTER "2 YRS" OF RESEARCHING,LOOSING HENS(HUMANELY PUT THEM DOWN) I HAVE FINALLY FOUND A CURE!
IN MILD OR SEVERE CASES OF CROP FUNGUS OR INTESTINAL.. THIS IS NO OVERNIGHT CURE IN "SEVERE" CASES & YOU WILL STILL SPEND A LOT OF TIME INITIALLY CARING FOR THEM. ONCE YOU HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL & GET A PATTERN IT WILL GET EASIER. IF your hen has been aspirating for sometime & has gurgled breathing& has thickened fibrotic tissue at the bottom of neck-crop entry ADMINISTER THE 1./4 tab of the 200mg IBUPROFIN ASAP!!!(FOR 5-8LB. HEN) YOU MAY NEED TO CONSIDER GIVING A TETRACYCLINE INJECTION OF 1.2CC( EVERY OTHER DAY) FOR AT LEAST 5 DAYS (which will equal 10 days of treatment). I HAD A SEVERE CASE &INFECTION HAD BUILT UP WITHIN THE LAYERS OF FUNGUS/THICKENED TISSUE. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT ANTI'S ARE USUALLY NOT GOOD FOR FUNGAL BUT BEFORE I EVEN HAD ALL OF THIS OTHER INFO. THIS IS HOW I TREATED (ALONG WITH REMOVING CORN,SEED,CARBS,ANYTHING WITH SUGAR) & I GOT THEM BETTER SEVERAL TIMES. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW I HAD MOLD SO IT KEPT COMING BACK. WITH MY OLDEST HEN I HAD TO ADMINISTER THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH IBUPROFIN FOR 4 DAYS. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL QUICKLY(WITHIN 4-5HOURS) IF THE TETRACYCLINE IS A PLUS OR NEG. MY HENS CROP WAS WALLED OFF ON ONE SIDE WITH A MASS OF FUNGUS-THICKENED SWOLLEN CROP WALL. TETRACYCLINE HAS A DRYING AFFECT & THE ASPIRATION INTO THE LUNGS HAD CAUSED AN INFECTION!
IF YOUR HEN IS ASPIRATING(may also see nasal dripping or dripping from roof of mouth when open),SCRATCHING THEIR FACE, has a squishy Crop, lumps in crop wall, smelly breath, crop farting, excessive white-slimy fecals, excessive wet-slimy mouth, distended abdomen( may even see a bit of blue in comb if abdomen related), Then you are more than likely dealing with a fungal infection!
You will also notice the hen is loosing weight & it isn't just from a lack of eating. They can still eat & be very skinny & this is due to the FUNGUS Feeding off the Food!
I'm going to try to do this in a list format of things to avoid & tools needed & then try to give the best -shortest verbal as I can. IF YOU WOULD LIKE FEEL FREE TO WRITE ME WITH YOUR SPECIFICS SO I CAN ADDRESS YOUR HENS SITUATION AS AN INDIVIDUAL. I HAVE WORKED WITH AN AVIAN VET BUT TO BE HONEST "SOME" OF HER INFO. WASN'T GOOD ESPEC. WHEN ITS A TIME CRUNCH! THE BEST INFO. I DID RECEIVE WAS IBUPROFIN!!!

THINGS YOU WILL NEED!.("ORGANIC" COCONUT OIL/CAPRYLIC TABS,& PROBIOTIC(NO SUGAR/DO NOT GIVE CAPSULE AS WHOLE SEE BELOW! GOT AT SPROUTS MARKET)

IBUPROFIN TABS 200MG (CUT INTO QUARTERS 1/4 MORN& EVE ADMINISTER ASAP!)
1 BOTTLE OF CAPRYLIC ACID TABS( I USED BRAND NAME"SOLGAR" DUE TO ITS MG. STRENGTH & LACK OF EXCESS MINERALS. THE CALSIUM/MAGNESIUM IN THIS WAS GOOD ESPEC. WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T EAT OYSTER SHELL)
1 JUG OF "ORGANIC" COCONUT OIL(I USED JARROWS EXTRA VIRGIN) ORGANIC IS IMPORTANT DUE TO THE LACK OF HEAT PROCESSING WHICH WILL AFFECT THE CAPRYLIC ACID IT CONTAINS. IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD BOTH THEN I WOULD JUST GO WITH THE TABS,CRUSH INTO POWDER,& ADD TO FISH OIL OR EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL.
"FRESH FISH" IF YOU CAN GET IT FOR AT LEAST 1 WEEK. the frozen I bought initially(had to squeeze water out in both) worked initially but I realized when they were 80% better something was a hindering progress. I realized the frozen was packed with salt & even with squeezing I wasn't able to abstract enough of it. once I switched to fresh I seen a big diff. within 48hrs!
"FRESH CUT" UNFERTILIZED GRASS!!! PREFERABLY THE THICK BLADE STUFF THEY CALL "PLAYGROUND". ITS EASIER TO SWALLOW& DIGEST,& IT CREATES "BACILLUS PLANTARIUM" THIS SUFFOCATES THE FUNGUS & ALLOWS THE HEN TO GET HER WATER WHILE ITS BEING DIGESTED!!! BETTER TO CUT LONG & THEN CUT UP WITH SCISSORS. YOU CAN KEEP THE GRASS IN A OPEN BAG WITH A FEW PIECES OF PAPER TOWEL MIXED IN FOR 2-3 DAYS BUT WOULDN'T GO LONGER! NEED TO KEEP MOISTURE OFF OF STORING GRASS OR YOU GET FUNGUS! FORCING WATER ON A BLOATED CROP DOES 2 THINGS: INCREASES CHANCES OF ASPIRATING INTO LUNGS/FEEDS FUNGUS!!! FUNGUS THRIVES ON MOISTURE & IS COMPRISED OF 50% WATER!!. IT NEEDS WATER TO SURVIVE!
DIRT BATHS!!!! YOUR HEN WILL DEFINITELY WANT THIS & MAY EVEN TRY EATING THE DIRT!!! I THINK ITS A WAY THEY TRY TO DRY UP THE FUNGUS. ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT YOU WILL NEED TO MIST-SPRAY THESE AREAS WITH YOUR OXINE MIX OR BLEACH MIX/MIX DIRT. IF IT ISN'T HOT ENOUGH FOR IT TO DRY OUT THEN I WOULD JUST TRY TO DO A LIGHT MIST & GIVE IT 24HRS. OF COURSE PICK UP FECALS.

A GOOD PROBIOTIC LIKE " FLORA-UDO'S CHOICE" IS WHAT I USED. IT HAS NO SUGAR BUT DOES HAVE A RICE CAPSULE WHICH YOU "DO NOT" WANT THEM TO EAT!!! RICE IS A CARB! THE REASON WHY I PICKED THIS ONE WAS BECAUSE IT HAD "4" GOOD PROBIOTICS / LACKED SUGAR IN ITS INGREDIENTS.
IF THEY DON'T CARRY THIS BRAND THEN THE TOP 3 YOU "REALLY WANT" IS LACTOBACILLUS ACIDOPHILUS,BACILLUS PLANTARIUM,& BACILLUS SUBSTILIS(WHICH I FOUND THIS ONE AT FEED STORE IN PACKETS CALLED "SAVE A CHICK". DO NOT FEEL YOU NEED TO GIVE IN WATER!!! IN ADDITION TO MAKING SMALL BATCHES OF WATER & SPRINKLED SOME IN I MIXED IT IN TO THE HENS FOOD TO BE CONSUMED "PROMPTLY". PROBIOTICS MUST BE KEPT COLD OR THEY DIE. I ACTUALLY PLACED COLD PACKS UNDER THE GLASS WATER CONTAINER(ITS BEEN HOT HERE) & KEPT IN SHADE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. DON'T WASTE YOUR PROS. ALSO STIRRING UP WITH CLEAN FINGER SCRAPING BOTTOM OF CONTAINER WILL KEEP THE PROS. CIRCULATING. THEY TEND TO STICK TO BOTTOM. DO NOT USE METAL!
WHATEVER PRODUCT YOU CHOOSE JUST MAKE SURE IT HAS NO SUGAR & NOT A BUNCH OF MINERALS.
I FOUND THAT GIVING MY HENS THEIR VITAMIN/ELECTROLYTE MIXED IN SEEMED TO AGGRAVATE THEIR CONDITION & I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WAS THE ELECTROLYTE MAKES THEM RETAIN WATER SO THERE FOR THE FUNGUS WILL THRIVE! FISH OIL IS GREAT & IT HAS AMINO ACIDS & FATS. THIS IS WHY THE COCONUT OIL IS FANTASTIC FOR AN EMACIATED HEN. THE FATS GIVE THEM THE NECESSARY ENERGY TO FIGHT SO EVEN IF THEY WON'T EAT MUCH THIS WILL HELP! YOU WILL ALSO NEED TO DO LIGHT MASSAGING OF THE CROP!!! NO SQUEEZING THE LUMPS! YOU WILL GENTLY PRESS DOWNWARD AT THE TOP OF THE CROP(ESPEC. WHILE EATING). THIS WILL HELP THEM EAT MORE BY SHIFTING THE CONTENTS DOWNWARD BUT DON'T LET THEM GO OVER 1/2 FULL TO START. THEY USUALLY KNOW BETTER. I ALSO FOUND THAT MY HENS WOULD ACTUALLY EAT THE COCONUT OIL CHUNKS & EVEN THE DARN QUARTER OF IBUFROFIN TAB!!! THEY REALIZE IT HELPS THEM SO AFTER A FEW DAYS THEY LEARN QUICK!
YOU DO NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR HEN TO AN EXTENT. YOU MAY NEED TO CAREFULLY FORCE FEED THE FISH MIXTURE(II actually broke up sm. pieces of layer pellet & mixed in with fish & coated with coconut oil,crushed caprylic acid tabs,& a few drops of fish oil).. IF YOU ARE GOING TO STICK WITH LAYER PELLET I CAN ONLY ADVISE TO coat it with what I just mentioned & MAKE SURE you break the Pellet up into smaller pieces. The digestion of whole pellet will create more work-inflammation on the crop. AS A FYI I FOUND OUT THAT THE LAYER PELLETS 2ND. ING. IS CORN! THE MEATBIRD(which states its higher in protein) ITS PRIMARY ING. IS CORN! ****** ME OFF! WHEN YOU GET THE OILS ON IT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE CORN LIGHTS UP LIKE NEON SIGNS.
FINALLY,DAILY,DAILY SPRAYING OF BLEACH MIXTURE IN COOP AREAS,KEEPING POOP CLEANED UP,WIPING OFF ROOST. THE POOP WILL STILL CONTAIN FUNGUS ALONG WITH THEIR SCRATCHING,COUGHING,WIPING OF BEAKS ON ROOST& FEATHERS. WHEN THE MUCUS WAS REALLY BAD I WOULD WIPE THEIR NECK AREAS/CROP FEATHER AREAS WITH ALCOHOL/WATER MIXTURE(ESPEC. IF IN CONTACT WITH OTHERS) I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE GRASS,GRASS,GRASS! I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH OF THIS THICK BLADED GRASS THEY WOULD CONSUME. THE UNBELIEVABLE PART IS WITHIN 5-10MIN YOU WILL SEE THE CROP SIZE COME DOWN CONSIDERABLY!!! IT MAY TAKE A FEW DAYS OF TREATING WITH THE COCONUT OIL/CAPRYLIC ACID-PROBIOTICS BUT YOU WILL SEE THEM CONSUME MORE& MORE! ON AVG. 1 HEN IS EATING 1.5 CUPS IN 1 DAY. I GIVE IT PERIODIC THROUGHOUT THE DAY & IN THE EVE I SNEAK OUT BEFORE I GO TO BED & LEAVE CHOPPED GRASS ON A PLATE IN THE COOP SO IN THE MORN. THEY HAVE IT 1ST. THING(UNLESS YOU AREA EARLY RISER & CAN GO OUT TO GIVE IT TO THEM). FREE RANGING IS BEST IN THIS SITUATION BUT IF EXTREMELY WEAK OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL NEED TO BRING THEM IN,PUT IN TUB,& BRING WHAT THEY NEED TO THEM.

I PRETTY MUCH COVERED THIS BUT THINGS TO AVOID!!!
SUGAR,CORN,CARBS(RICE,SEED,& EVEN SOME VEGI'S!),GARLIC(IS ACTUALLY POISONOUS & KILLS BOTH GOOD/BAD BACTERIA)
BEFORE GIVING ANYTHING READ,READ,READ! LOOK AT WHAT ITS COMPRISED OF. I THOUGHT CARROTS WERE GOOD(VITAMIN A IS A BIG +). SHE WENT FOR IT AT FIRST ALONG WITH THE CROOKNECK SQUASH/ZUCCHINI BUT THEN NOTICED SHE STARTED TO REFRAIN. I LOOKED AT THE CARROTS & YES THEY HAVE SUGAR.
THE SQUASH YOU CAN TRY. CUTTING INTO SMALL PIECES & COOKING 1/2 WAY BUT TRY SQUEEZING SOME OF THAT WATER OUT. IT HAS GREAT NATURAL ANTI-INFLAMATORY PROPERTIES & HIGH IN VITAMIN A.
THE BAD IS THE WATER CONTENT & DOES CONTAIN SM. AMTS. OF SUGAR. YOU MAY NEED TO UTILIZE THIS WHEN THINGS ARE AT ITS WORST BECAUSE ITS MUCH EASIER TO DIGEST. STRESS,STRESS,STRESS!
STRESS WILL ALSO CAUSE THIS PROBLEM TO LINGER. STRESS FACTORS,EXCESSIVE HEAT(ESPEC. HUMIDITY),OTHER FLOCK MEMBERS PICKING ON THEM & IN MY SITUATION I COULD ONLY KEEP MY WORST HEN IN FOR 7 DAYS. ONCE SHE STARTED TO GET A LITTLE BETTER SHE WANTED OUT. THIS YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE THE CALL ON. THE PROBLEM LIES WITH INFECTING OTHERS. IT GOT TO A POINT WHERE I HAD TO LET HER OUT SINCE IT WAS OBVIOUS IT WAS CAUSING A PROBLEM.. WINTER IS WORSE DUE TO MOISTURE/COLD. IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO BRING THEM IN OR PUT THEM IN A BARN(FOR EXAMPLE) TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM THE MOIST AIR ESPEC. IF ITS RAIINING. YOU DON'T WANT THEM DRINKING MUDDY RAIN WATER!

THIS IS WHY THE FISH IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT HAS HIGH PROTEIN & EASY ON THE CROP WALL. I FIND WHAT WORKS WELL IS TO INITIALLY COOK IT IN MICRO,SQUEEZE WATER OUT,THEN THROW IT BACK IN FOR 10SECS & LET IT SIT ON COUNTER FOR 5-10MIN. SOME OF THE EXCESS MOISTURE WILL EVAPORATE & THEN WHEN COOLED ADD YOUR CAPRYLIC ACID CRUMBLED POWDER, COCONUT.OIL,SM. AMTS. OF LAYER PELLET BROKEN OR WHATEVER ELSE "YOU CHOOSE"! I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT FINALLY WORKED FOR ME & ONE WAS A 12yo HEN & THE OTHER WAS A HEN WITH PRIMARILY INTESTINAL FUNGUS-YEAST(PER INITIAL TESTING)! HOWEVER I NOTICED THAT BOTH THIS HEN/ROOSTER STARTED GETTING A BIT OF SQUISHY CROP/SM. LUMP IN THE VERY CORNER OF THE CROP-HIGH UP(THE CORNERS PROVIDE A NICE MOIST GROWING MEDIUM FOR THE FUNGUS).
WELL I HOPE THIS LESSENS YOUR FRUSTRATION/SUFFERING! I'M A STUBBORN ITALIAN LADY WHO LOVES HER CHICKENS. I SPENT OVER$100 ON ITRACONAZOLE WHICH DID INITIALLY HELP A LOT BUT I WON'T GO INTO THE LONG STORY. IN SHORT SAD TO SAY I BELIEVE THE PHARMACIST(AT ROOD RIDDLE) EITHER SPIKED MY LAST BOTTLE WITH SUGAR OR ADDED EXTRA FLAVORING WHICH HAD SUGAR IN IT. IT THREW HER INTO A 360. IN SHORT HE WAS UPSET HE HAD TO REBATCH A BOTTLE FOR FREE DUE TO THE AVIAN VET/HIM DECIDING TO UP THE PH. AT THE TIME OF COMPOUNDING & IT DISINTEGRATED THE DRUG. I THINK THAT IF I WOULD HAVE STARTED WITH ALL OF THIS VS THE DRUG I WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THIS SITUATION WEEKS AGO!
GOOD LUCK & GOD BLESS! DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK QUESTIONS. THIS WAS VERY FRUSTRATING HAVING TO FIGURE OUT 90% OF THIS ON MY OWN FROM TONS OF RESEARCH/READING!!

THE LITTLE EXTRAS AFTER EATING THAT WILL HELP MOVE THINGS ALONG IF DEDICATED!
IN EVE WHEN THEY ARE ON THEIR ROOST GIVE THEM EACH AT LEAST 1/4 C OF THE CUT UP GRASS( YOU CAN EVEN SPRINKLE A LITTLE OF THE PROBIOTIC CONTENTS ON IT)
A COUPLE OF SM. CHUNKS OF THE COCONUT OIL IN SOLID FORM(THEY SHOULD GOBBLE IT RIGHT UP OFF YOUR PLATTER & YOU WANT EACH TO HAVE THEIR OWN TO AVOID CROSS CONTAMINATION SINCE THEY TEND TO DROP)
GIVE IT A COUPLE OF MINS TO MELT IN CROP THEN GENTLY MASSAGE CROP SO IT GETS MIXED AROUND & COATS THE ENTIRE CROP WALL(ESPEC IF YOU HAVE ONE THAT HAS 1 SIDE INFLAMED-LUMPY). THIS ALLOWS IT TO SIT OVERNIGHT & DO ITS WORK!
LAST. IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE BUGS HIDING(EVEN SLUGS YUCK!) SHOW THIS TO YOUR WORST HENS. YOU MAY NEED TO EVEN PUT THEM IN A CONTAINER & FEED LITTLE BY LITTLE. DUE TO THEIR CONDITION THEY WON'T EAT FAST & MAY EVEN TENDERIZE THE BUG BEFORE SWALLOWING OR DROP/PICK UP SEVERAL TIMES. BY THEN YOUR BUG STASH HAS RAN FOR COVER. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY BUT THE WORST HEN WHO NORMALLY WOULD NOT EAT A STINK BUG(BIG BLACK BEETLES) WENT BONKERS FOR THEM. IN FACT STOPPED EATING EARWIGS(SHE WOULD GO THROUGH A LOT OF SLAPPING/BREAKING UP OF THEM BEFORE EATING & ONLY WOULD EAT 5-10). IF I SHOWED HER A BEETLE SHE WENT CRAZY & THERE WAS NO PREPPING! LOL
I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF ANTI-INFLAM. PROPERTY THERE & SHE WOULD EAT AS MANY AS I COULD GIVE HER!

 

[Chickinlittle1]

FOLLOW UP & SOME ADDED TIPS/INFO. BY CHICKEN LITTLE.
FIRST TOPIC: Bringing Inside I noticed that after a few days it seemed like I hit a stagnant point. IN SHORT I realized she really wanted to be out with the others which was adding stress(Stress bad for Fungal!). This may NOT be for Every case but something to watch for. The 2nd reason is because they DON'T like to poop (especially when its runny) in their Nesting. My Hen was trying to hold it. As soon as I would take her out of the Box & set her on the Floor she would let it rip!
Since my others had been affected by her being sick I came up with something that worked for all. It was a bit of a pain but I did it & its working Fantastic even though its in the 90's here.
Fungus thrives on water. What I did was assigned a separate sm. dish for the worst one. I only put aprox. 1/2 cup of COLD water & added a little of the Probiotic & I even sprinkled a little crushed Caprylic Acid Tablet(remember to look for Solgar Brand low in Iron but has a decent Calcium/Magnesium content). I let her drink out of that dish solely espec. before bed & the other 3 shared a container with the same mixture. I then PULL the Water. In the first few days ESPECIALLY If they have a lot of slime you should start a fresh batch daily.
Then before going to bed myself I put 2 Pie Tins with sm. pieces of chopped grass & toss it with just a LITTLE Coconut oil & FINE Sprinkle of Caprylic Acid Tablet Powder. YOU DON'T WANT THE GRASS ALL OILY JUST BITS OF IT. I also LIGHTLY MISTED WITH FLICKING WATER FROM MY FINGERS SO THE GRASS DIDN'T DRY. If its winter then no worries but we have had warm nights here. I put it on the Coop Floor separating the 2. tins My Hope was that they would split up leaving less bacteria. The Caprylic helps this to but I wanted the best results as possible. I ALSO PULLED THE FOOD & SAME SITUATION. THE WORST HEN HAS HER OWN FOOD BOWL.
When I went out the next morning to offer their water EVERY BIT of the Grass was gone & even most of the Powder the had fallen off the Grass bought some Caprylic acid tabs on top of the Organic Coconut oil which also has Caprylic, I took a sm. slice off of the tab & smashed with a knife & sprinkled it into the water. IF your Chicken is gobbling down Chunks of this Coconut Oil like mine(they will even eat sm. crumbles of the tablet too).
THE GRAIN WAS A BIG PROBLEM!. I TRIED FISH BUT SALT IN THIS CONDITION IS NOT GOOD! I TRIED BOILED BEEF-SHREDDED BUT DRIED WATER OFF,PORK TOO MUCH SALT.UG!
FINALLY I Found it! MEALWORMS DRIED OR ALIVE FROM PETCO REPTILE AREA OR THERE IS A GUY ON EBAY (RAINBOW MEALWORMS) WHO HAS FREE FAST SHIPPING & YOU CAN GET UP TO 5,000. Mealworms are HIGH in Vitamin A/Protein. I DID OFFER ONLY A SM. AMT. OF THE NEW PURINA OMEGA PELLET. ITS SMALLER & DIGESTED EASIER. I NOTICED ALL THE HENS PICKED THIS PELLET OUT OVER THE NORMAL GENERIC.
For the first few days FOR the Worst I would only feed the mealworms & chunks of Coconut oil. Feed sm.amts. & in between meals offer chopped grass. I don't have a lot of grass due to hot weather but even the stuff I do have they will only go for if its short & they specifically want the thick bladed grass. I can only say what worked for my hens & watched to see what they were going for.
I had to do a 90% Mealworm 10% pellet for 3-4 days with the worst one. Even when I did add more pellet she wouldn't eat much but loved the live worms over the dried but always worms first. With the less severe they also wanted the Purina Omega pellet. Its MAIN Ing. IS CORN which is Bad BUT it has EVERYTHING in it(read up on it). Now with the other group I drizzled Coconut oil on their pellet & only gave them 15% worms. After a week of this they are ALMOST WELL!!!
I will make sure I keep it up for at least 1 week past the "NO LUMPNO SLIME,NO CROP FARTING Stage. OH you will also notice if you hang around a bit that AFTER giving them chopped Grass(always the lVERY Last thing I offer before leaving coop at night) that you will hear the air expel from their Crop. This is letting you know the grass is working. The Fungus needs air to live & the Grass Suffocates it.
You will have to come up with your own regimen but this is the info./tools you will need to beat it!
FUNGAL IS A PAIN WHEN ITS BAD BUT IF YOU LOVE YOUR BIRDS THIS IS HOW TO BEAT IT!
If a minor case then you can pull from this but won't have to go as extreme but REMEMBER IT IS CONTAGEOUS!

 

[Chickinlittle1]

FINALLY AT THE END OF THIS NIGHTMARE! VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE ON PROBIOTICS!!! PLEASE READ BEFORE USING INFO. ABOVE!!!

You would think when you use a product or Make the Effort to Call BEFORE Buying a Product that you would receive accurate information on a products Ingredients. I actually got what I would call "The Double Whammy!" FIRST PRODUCT "SAVE A CHIC" This is a Probiotic sold in Feed stores & it is "Suppose TO" be PURE "Bacillus Substilis". I noticed my Hens have been doing this Rollercoater ride for sometime. I was only administering these Probiotics every 2 Days to avoid upset stomachs. What got my attn. Specifically was when I spilled a little & went to clean it up.
I noticed it seemed STICKY!
I had looked at other Probiotics at my local Feed store & ALL Had a Form of Sugar or Carb in it so this is why I choose this one. Well I decided to read the Package again & spotted "Fermentation Product". The Best way to learn about this is Wikipedia. IN SHORT it Converts Sugar to Gases using yeast or bacteria! So If your Chicken HAS a Yeast Infection & you are giving ANY Amt. of Grain this product will Defeat the darn purpose!! I called & as politely as I could educated the Rep. & let her know how much additional time/Grief/$ this product cost me! I THEN STATED THAT IF THIS WAS GIVEN TO A CHIC WITH THIS CONDITION IT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY KILL THAT CHIC FROM ASPIRATING THE FOOD. THE ONLY THING THAT SAVED ME WAS I GAVE THEM THE 1'4 TAB OF 200MG IBUPROFIN MORN./EVE. OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY HAD 3 DEAD CHICKENS ESPEC. WHEN I WAS USING IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEXT PRODUCT! P.S. THIS CO. DIDN'T SEEM THAT CONCERNED BUT SAID SHE WOULD PASS THE INFO. ALONG. LOL. UNBELIEVABLE!


IT GETS WORSE! THE NEXT PRODUCT I STATED TO USE" FLORA ADULT PROBIOTIC" The reason I choose this one was due to a bacteria called "Bacillus Plantarium"(suffocates Fungus) This is along the same lines of what Grass would do but in a larger amt.(DRY Grass TO TOUCH-not damp). HOWEVER, THE GRASS ISN'T GOOD FOR CROP FUNGUS EVEN THOUGH THE HEN WILL PROBABLY WANT TO EAT IT TO AVOID MEDICATED WATERS!!!
(SEE BOTTOM OF THIS POST ON BLEACH VS CAPRYLIC ACID).
I had the Sprouts Rep CALL The Co. & consulted a Rep on Sugar OR Carb. Content. We were instructed that as long as I DIDN'T USE THE CAPSULE(POTATO STARCH) IT WAS FREE OF SUGAR/CARBS!
So Much For That! After seeing the other product had issues I figured I should look at this one more closely. ANOTHER THING THAT MADE ME THINK WAS A FEW DAYS PRIOR MY ROOSTER CRAPPED IN THE WATER & THESE ARE DEEP BOWLS. HE NEVER DOES THIS SO I HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THIS PROCESS NOT TO IGNORE ODD BEHAVIOR & TO OBSERVE CLOSELY. UNFORTUNATELY THEY CAN'T COMMUNICATE. AN EXAMPLE IS I SPRAYED WITH AN OXINE MIXTURE(SLIGHTLY OXIDIZED) UNDER A RACK IN THE COOP. THEY WENT OVER & STOOD THERE. I REALIZED THEY WERE BREATHING THE EVAP-FUMES. UPON FURTHER EXAMINATION I REALIZED THEY HAD IT(FUNGUS)(WETNESS NEAR NOSTRILS) . I STARTED MISTING LIGHT DOSES OF OXINE NON OXIDIZED MORN/EVE. USING AN OLD NASAL MISTER(HAS TO BE FINE & I SHOT IT APROX. 8XS EA. ABOVE THEIR HEAD NOT DIRECTLY AT THEM) THE NASAL SYMPTOMS CLEARED IN 4-5 DAYS. INSTRUCTIONS CAN BE FOUND ON "POULTRYPEDIA.COM" CLICK ON FUUNGAL INFECTIONS & SCROLL DOWN TOWARD THE BOTTOM.

BACK TO THIS PROBIOTIC! I STARTED TO READ EVERY WORD ON THIS BOTTLE & I RAN ACROSS A LONG *** WORD"HYDROXYPROPYL METHYLCELLULOSE"
AGAIN BEST PLACE TO READ UP IS WIKIPEDIA. IN SHORT IT IS A POLYMER CONSISTING OF "NUMEROUS" GLUCOSE MOLECULES. IT SLOWS DIGESTION,CAUSES EXPANSION,& IS USED IN PLACE OF GLUTEN. IT IS USED IN EVERYTHING FROM MAKING GLUE,TIRES,& BREAD!!!

HERE I THOUGHT IT WSA BREAKING DOWN THE FUNGUS & THIS WAS WHY I WAS SEEING MORE BLOAT & THE LUMPS IN THE CROP WALL SEEMED SMALLER.
AT LEAST WHEN I CONTACTED THIS COMPANY THEY WERE MORE CONCERNED..
JUST SHARING THIS NEXT FACT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO READ,RESEARCH & DBL. CHECK EVERYTHING!
THIS REP SENT ME BACK TO SPROUTS TO GET MY $ BACK BUT ON TOP OF IT SENT 2 PRODUCTS SHE THOUGHT MAY BE HELPFUL. THE FIRST WAS GREAT WHICH IS "FLAX OIL" ITS BETTER THAN FISH OIL & PACKED WITH OMEGAS & MORE(READ UP).
I ALSO REC'D. A PRODUCT CALLED FLOR ESSENCE DETOX TEA
I HAVE FOUND CONFLICTING INFO. ON THESE HERBALS FOR POULTRY.
SHE STATED EVERYONE IS USING IT FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS. OBVIOUSLY THIS PRODUCT IS INTENDED FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION & IS BEING USED PRIMARILY BY CANCER PATIENTS. SUPPOSEDLY THEY SWEAR BY IT!
AS A NURSE I COULD NOT BELIEVE THIS PART. I GOOGLED & RAN "IS SHEEP SORREL,RHUBARB TURKISH RHUBARB/RED CLOVER BLOSSOM SAFE FOR HUMANS/ANIMALS?"
IF YOU GO TO "HOLISTIC BIRD.ORG"(THERE IS ALSO A .COM & THEY ARE DIFFERENT IN INFO. SUPPLIED)
THE SHEEP SORREL(Sour Grass) AND Red Clover is on their list for usage. There is NO Specific Info. on How much. I ALSO found This SPECIFIC Product Mentioned on .org or .com. I WOULD SAY PROCEED WITH CAUTION ON SMALL AMTS. & IF YOU CAN FIND DAFODIL WEEDS the leaves on the plant the chickens will eat & is also a Detox. They espec. like the Younger plants because the Leaves get bitter as the plant matures. I HAVE given my Chickens Sm. amts. of this product because I'm at the end of Summer & lacking various plants-weeds. I gave each 4 drops & went up to 6(1x a day). I noticed a little panting in my oldest but she has the Crop Fungus & is 12YO so I just went back down with her.




IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO DBL. OR EVEN TRIPLE CHECK WHAT YOU CONSUME OR YOUR ANIMALS DO THESE DAYS.
IF I WAS EVEN GOING TO USE THIS PRODUCT MYSELF IT WOULD BE AT A LOWER DOSE THAN THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

THATS ALL FOR NOW. IF YOU CAN FIND THESE PROBIOTICS WITHOUT SUGARS,GLUTENS,OR CARBS THEN I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND AFTER YOU CURE THEM! I DID MANAGE TO FIND SOME ONLINE BUT VERY PRICEY. I ALSO JUST LEARNED & THIS IS WHY I'm EDITING RIGHT NOW SINCE I CANNOT DELETE MY OTHER POSTS. YOU CAN TRY BLEACH FIRST! ITS the Cheapest BUT DON'T DO OXINE FOR YEAST OR FUNGAL CROP. THE OXINE LACKS THE DRYING OUT AFFECT SO IT WILL ONLY KILL THE BACTERIA. THIS DOESN'T WORK ON THE CROP FUNGUS!!! All you End Up Doing Is Killing Off ALL BACTERIA & For Whatever Reason The Bumps don't Go Down Much. They Didn't Want To Drink the Oxine Water Either!!! It Worked Last Summer when all they had was the first stage(Slimy-Wet Mouth/Breathing clustered sounding & Regurgitating Food) IN SHORT I Found Out The NEW ROOF My Husband/Father had Built got wet under the Tiles & there was MOLD Hiding!! During the Latter Spring- Summer it Dries BUT Spores Become Airborne in an attempt to multiply!!! IF BLEACH DOESN'T WORK Then TRY the Caprylic Acid BUT NOT BOTH AT THE SAME TIME ESPECIALLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE OXINE!!! The Darn ORGANIC ACID was Nullifying the Chlorine!!! I Couldn't Figure out Why they weren't eating as well & really picking through their food. I was Sprinkling it on their Food so It would stay in the Crop Longer. This Works Great but the oldest one who had the Crop Fungus the Worst wasn't filling her Crop Full Enough to get way up in the top corner. I was on mSU Cares site(Poultry) & it just states "Remember Organic breaks the Bleach water down"(In General). As I Said Before THEY WILL TRY & TELL YOU) I thought "Well Caprylic IS Organic & an Acid) I ACTUALLY PREFER THE CAPRYLIC ACID & WILL GIVE IT AS AN OCASS. SUPPLIMENT FROM NOW ON. IT DID WORK GREAT ON THE OTHER 2. I WOULD ONLY USE "SOLGAR " BRAND!
WHICHEVER METHOD YOU CHOOSE TO TRY FIRST STILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE 1/4 TAB OF A 200MG. IBUPROFIN MORN./EVE. THAT WAS THE BEST INFO. I GOT FROM THE AVIAN VET FOR $90! THIS NOT ONLY REDUCES THE INFLAMMATION/REGURGITATING & ALLLOWS THEM TO SLEEP BETTER BUT AS WE ALL KNOW THINGS HEAL BETTER/FASTER WHEN INFLAMMATION IS UNDER CONTROL.
GOD BLESS! I WILL ACCEPT ANY EMAILS/QUESTIONS.