"gambling" with fate to defend my eggs' life (he/she make it!!!!)

[mulia24]

@ wegotchickens : no, no problem at all, oh, japanese, sometime i hat* them when remember what they did in WWII.

just ignore it. thank you actually, even if i don't know the expression, then I learn to know it, don't I? knowledge come from experience, experience come from foolish.

thank you to forecasting the day for me. I'm planning to candle it today, what do you thing if about it? yes, i know from article i found in internet, unfortunately, i'm putting my duck eggs inside bator on 13rd since i need to buy it first.

@ iamcuriositycat: oh, unfortunately i don't know the breed. yes, i'm not going to toss it, since duck eggs here has a thick shell, i think it would be hard to candle them, wouldn't it? yap, really interesting thing to build an incubator, i just can believe this little white colored calcium can turn into a bird that can fly with only bulb.

 

[frenchblackcopper]

Mulia,,what is the voltage of your electrical service in your country?Is it alternating current,or direct current,,AC or DC,,and the voltage please?Is it possible for you to recieve packages sent to you from others in other countries? Do you have a delivery service for packages sent to you? It would seem with all your problems,and shortages of what we have in excess of here lying around in the USA,,we could build you a small,very well insultaed incubator,and ship it to you. I have plywood,and a spare wafer thermostat laying around,,a couple of digital thermometers with humiditity level readings on them as well.

The only problem is what your electric voltage and type is,and if youir able to recieve a package or not,if sent to you? Surely we can build you something that will work with better supplies than you have available to you.

Our electricity in the USA is most common AC and standard service is 110 volts and for larger power requirements,220 volts is used.

 

[wegotchickens]

We all learn lots of things on this site! Even old sayings, not just chicken information. We're learning about your country from you! I try to learn something new every day, so you've helped me with that goal

No day is wasted if you learn something, even something small or silly.

I try not hold any grudges against a nationality for things done in the past. Just individuals who seem to cling to old and offensive ideas. And I've been blessed because most of the people I get to know seem very nice!

You could try candling today, but don't throw any away if you don't see anything. Sometimes when you candle early they look clear but have very small veins. I never throw eggs out of the incubator unless they start to stink. I've only had one start to stink, and WOW was it obvious! Stinkers can explode, so find them (sniffing each egg) and throw them out.

 

[mulia24]

@ frenchblackcopper : in my country, standard power is 220 Volt AC . wew, glad to hear that, that's a very kind of you, but, since my country always have power outages (once always, twice sometime) i think that even best insulated incubator can't hold heat and humidity for four hour, can it? it's better to help me for device to convert DC to AC since i have a battery since maybe it wouldn't be possible to provide me a generator. yes, i can receive any packages sent from any country, of course i'm able to receive any packages sent to me, since i'm using an ubuntu linux and linux mint sent to me from my friend abroad. thank you very much, i do appreciate every help.

 

[mulia24]

@ wegotchickens : thank you for the information and the useful advice, i have been candled just about 15 minutes ago.



I sadly announces that from 3 chicken eggs and 5 duck eggs, the result is : 3 chicken eggs is clear at all, i can only see the yolk, nothing's happen inside. 3 of 5 duck eggs showed me the real pretty vein (i really can stand to look it for hours if they can stand for it

) . i do hope these 3 eggs duck didn't disappointed me for 3 weeks of running up down till my dress wet of sweating to provide them heat from kerosene. i really "down" i do realize that this is a very big failure, i'm failed, my hen has been laying 4 eggs, 2 was steel and eaten by my dog (don't worry he has got his punishment, realy2 bad and hard punishment i gave him for killing those 2 embryos) 2 is now in my storage. tomorrow I will "break" 1 of 2 eggs i saved to see if it fertile or not. oh my...... really breaking my heart.... it didn't even reach 50% rate. my 3 "duckling" please don't disappointing me, i do rely only from you.

 

[wegotchickens]

Mulia, it is your first time hatching! Also, maybe your rooster is no good. This isn't a failure of your chicken eggs, it's more learning of what is not yet right. Yes, check your eggs for fertility. Also, remember that you had a hard time getting things working in the beginning.

If you haven't thrown away the clear eggs, crack them and see if they started to develop or were not fertile at all. Also, don't throw them out. Cook them and feed them to your hens. The extra protein will help make the hens stronger and lay better eggs.

I know you are disappointed, but I'm glad you have some development in the duck eggs! That means your system is working in your incubator! Now you just need to figure out the problem with the hens eggs, and you will be all set!

 

[mulia24]

@ wegotchickens : yap, through those 3 clear eggs with only yolk (no development), i really sure that i don't have a good rooster, just 1 rooster, another 1 is in cage cause making all my chicken became bald. tomorrow is the "fertility test" i hope of nothing about test, just simple, if fertile then another eggs will be taken to next batch (i will rethink about it since i'm tired to run for kerosene lamp and keep watching the temp and of course the fire), if it fail, well just eat egg everyday. i can complaint about the duck eggs since i bought it not being laid by my duck (i hate those "muddy and stinky"). i'm trying to find a new rooster in this week. i planned to just leave those eggs inside the incubator and give them another 7 days more, how do you think? what? feeding my hen with eggs? i think that will grow really really bad habit since she know that those eggs taste good. how do you think? i'm afraid the embryos in eggs is being poisoned by CO2 since i'm using kerosene lamp(even with "half door opened" ventilation right now), what do you think about it? thank you for every second spent to help me know better about chicken.

just a little information, i learned many coop design in BYC, i just starting build it yesterday, today the progress have reached almost 80%. since almost all goods is expensive here, i try to build it with very very very low cost and after i count it, the total cost will be US$ 40. that's a huge amount of money to be only spend for a coop here. it will be hard for you to find good coop in here since people here didn't "care" too much about chicken. people over here will be "shocked" if they know i bought those wood (lumber) and spent US$40 only to build a coop. if my camera phone can still "alive" i will take the pics of my coop and posted it here.

 

[wegotchickens]

If you cook the eggs, then the hens won't know what they are and will not get bad habits. I do it for my chickens when they are molting or under stress (like during the winter). And I always save my egg shells, dry them out, crush them up, and then feed them back to my hens.

If you test fertility by breaking an egg, and there is no fertility, then I'd scramble those chicken eggs in the incubator now and feed them to your girls.
If the CO2 hasn't poisoned the duck eggs, then the chicken eggs are safe, too. Unless you think the danger to the eggs from CO2 happened before the duck eggs went in?
And good luck with getting that new rooster! I'd eat the mean one...

In the US we chicken people are often laughed at for how much we spend on our chickens. So you are not alone in that. But value depends on perspective. You need to keep your chickens secure so that you can grow your flock and maybe make money from your chickens one day. No one on BYC would laugh at you for that. I am looking forward to seeing pictures!

 

[mulia24]

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wow, amazing, outstanding information, i just thinking why i don't get thinking about feeding them the shell since they're rich in protein and calcium, thank you very much, but i will try to mix the crushed shell in other feed cause maybe my hen didn't want to eat "raw form" like that. yes, i will cook those eggs in incubator after candling them 3 days later, i'm still want them to have such "opportunity" to live, good advice you've gave me. actually i'm lying to my self, i just hope to see those eggs have vein in three days, if not, well, just back to your mom in other "form".
em, about security, i think my home is secure since my backyard is about 4x20 metres and have 2 meters high wall, you can see it in my picture in my picture on previous page. maybe i can just leave those chicken loose in my backyard or get them in coop? what do you think about it?
sorry for asking to much since i'm still a very "freshly laid egg" in here.
thank you more and more for helping "freshly laid egg" like me.

 

[frenchblackcopper]

mulia,,we have "coolers" made in this country that will keep ice froze for 11 days,,that's how good the insulation is.I guess it's become a standard now when advertising the insulation qualities of coolers made in the USA now,as they always seem to refer to the number of days ice can be kept in them.
If an incubator was made that is well insulated and can be completely closed up including the vents during a power outage,I believe one could hold the temp within 1-2 degrees for 3-4 hours time during a power outage,,,anyone else agree??