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So what do people think of this article (a) - I am sure I read RJF were what chickens *came* from, not that they were chickens, so the title threw me (b)- I understood laying habits are seasonal, not year round so why call them 'prolific egg layers' (c)- I understood them to be wild and roosters highly aggressive during mating season, so how on earth would they be at all a 'great option for a small scale farm'. Have I got it all wrong?

https://petkeen.com/red-jungle-fowl-chicken/
 
So what do people think of this article (a) - I am sure I read RJF were what chickens *came* from, not that they were chickens, so the title threw me (b)- I understood laying habits are seasonal, not year round so why call them 'prolific egg layers' (c)- I understood them to be wild and roosters highly aggressive during mating season, so how on earth would they be at all a 'great option for a small scale farm'. Have I got it all wrong?

https://petkeen.com/red-jungle-fowl-chicken/

That article isn’t really discussing true Red Jungle Fowl, but either hybrids or junglefowl-like gamefowl of the sort I raise. Did you notice that the article calls them “Spanish Gamecock” under the breed name? There’s a long association between red junglefowl and the old Spanish gamefowl. Many sources use the titles interchangeably. The Spanish Empire most certainly had access to Red Jungle Fowl and derivative hybrids in their trade in SE Asia and junglefowl-like gamefowl ended up all over the Spanish colonies in the Caribbean, including Florida.
 
Thank you for finally sharing your beef. It appears you read my post completely out of context of the overall thread, and if I had read the same post, I would agree with you (except for the genetics thing, you and I are talking about two different things that are unrelated and we are neither in agreement or disagreement, the terminology is being used incorrectly.) I have been working with Ag, exotic, and domestic animals all my life, and I will stand up and preach from a soapbox to anyone who thinks tigers or primates can be pets, or to anyone who blatantly writes off an entire domesticated breed as dangerous or deadly - hence my defense of gamefowl.

It was apparent from the get-go that the OP wasn't talking about normal gamefowl, just using the term, and later it was confirmed that they are an imported breed closer to jungle fowl than bonafide gamefowl. I am not ignorant in my knowledge of gamefowl, as I mentioned previously, I grew up pretty darn close to Mike Ratliff and know people that still have his lines today. I've also known people that thought they bought gamefowl and were sorely disappointed. Therefore, I wasn't going to question what the breed was, I was just going to respond based on the information given. But in the case that the birds did have real gamefowl lineage, I heavily peppered my rooster rehabilitation suggestions with things to look for that would make him impossible to break and to subsequently cull without taking a chance. You didn't pay attention to any of that and just wrote me off as someone who thinks that roosters will be nice if you just give them enough cuddles, but of course, you did that on purpose.

My personal anecdote really threw you for a curve I guess, because it had nothing to do with gamefowl, just teenage roosters in general (none of mine are layer breeds either), which I included, given that the OPs explanation of what was occurring was more indicative of non-gamefowl behavior. OP established that none of his roosters were aggressive save one.

I never compared gamefowl to layer roosters, I never said anything about aggression being about size, and I did allude to territory and females.

As far as genetics vs. training goes, I stand by what I've said more than once. The thirst for blood is not genetic. To date there has been no gene or marker identified for aggression. We know that all males within the G. gallus species are aggressive toward each other, but even the Red Junglefowl's natural behavior is to have more than one male in a flock, as it ensures survival of the offspring for multiple reasons. Their aggressive behavior is no different than many other species (including humans), and is more dependent upon hormones if you want to pin some congenital blame on it. And as I said before, I have seen flocks of gamefowl that allow more than one rooster, just because it doesn't fit into your narrow world doesn't mean it's impossible that it could exist.


Yes, I already said that. Twice.

This is not the first time that you have come into the middle of a thread that I was participating in and started trouble, for what, because you don't like me? Sure, you resent my intelligence, I already get that. You know I'm not someone with "zero actual experience," nor do I spout BS; I have no problem backing up anything I say, and I've told you that before. But it's not about me is it? You do that often on this forum. You're the one that gets pleasure from conflict and baiting people in order to "fuel your own ego," and that's evident every time you touch the keyboard. Grow up.
Which flocks were they, that had mature cocks all together? What strains? Which game farm?
 
So, the people posting and giving advice on the forum should have hands-on experience.
I agree that's best, when available.

But when I ask the people who have more hands-on experience to impart some of their earned wisdom, I am told I have an 'entitled mentality'.

So now I all need to do is figure out if I have an entitled mentality when I ask questions of people with hands-on experience...
:he :rolleyes: :hit
You become someone who doesn’t feel entitled to everything when you lose the attitude and try researching first then ask questions
It’s okay to ask questions and get help understanding but not if you expect everything on a silver platter
 

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