I have 8 geese. Breakdown: 2 Ganders Toulouse, 1 Goose that Loves Everyone-NANNA Pilgrim!, 1 Embden Goose that doesn't care about anything or anyone (EASY GOING) and 4 8 month old goslings from Nanna (2 Pilgrim, 1 Pied Pomeranian and 1 Cross-Beak Toulouse named "BILL". I would kill anyone who even thought about hurting Bill (not the point here though). Everyone is grown up and getting along in life. Days have their routine. BUT --- Gander problems! Clyde is constantly attacking Louie!
Where do I start --- I NEED HELP!!! PEACE ON THE FARM!!!
I'll start with night. I put Clyde and Bonnie (Embden) up separately in same coop with separation partition (wire). They sleep together and go up in pen together before going in coop just before dark so Louie and the rest of the flock can peacefully enjoy evening and then go up in their part of the coop.
All night Clyde pulls on wire and makes noise trying to get through screen to Louie. Off and on.
Morning I let Louie and Nanna and the 4 grown goslings (girls) out first ... they run around honking and doing their morning thing for 5 minutes and then I let Clyde and Bonnie out. Bonnie goes to tub to bathe or pond. She DGAS Doesn't give a S)#$( about everyone she does her own thing but keeps Clyde company.
When I let Clyde out he runs around honking, the whole group (louie too) runs to clyde and they all honk and flap around and fly to the pond.... then during the day Clyde starts keeping Louie at a distance. 15 feet away from group. Clyde gives Louie the eye if Louie even thinks about coming in the shade under the tree to lay wit hthe group. Clyde won't let Louie eat with everyone else - gives him the eye again!
Sometimes Clyde runs at Louie (who is MUCH LARGER THAN CLYDE) and Louie runs away - Clyde chases him to a distance and then runs back to the group squaking like "I'm the KING!" and on occasion Clyde grabs Louie (this I have a problem with!) in the middle of the back and then just starts hitting him with his wings. Sometimes Louie runs into the pond and dives and gets away - others I have had to grab Clyde (who is in a TRANCE of mad rage and doesn't even know when to stop even after I've grabbed him off Louie) and pry his beak open and off Louie... Louie runs away and Clyde is like sitting there in shock and then snaps to and wants to go to the group and celebrate which I DO NOT LET HIM DO - he goes timeout or sits with me for a minute until he snaps out of it.
What is going on here? I konw 2 ganders and all but still others have flocks of ganders that get along. Many many ganders in one flock that get along. Louie was my first goose/gander. I got Nanna and Clyde to keep company. Needed another female and got Bonnie (again who doesn't care about any of this crap) and Nanna and Louie hatched/sat raised 4 goslings. Clyde was in isolation with Bonnie during all that as Bonnie sat a nest that didn't hatch (she's new). When all went out together Clyde became obnoxious freak that won't leave Louie alone and wants to hog all the geese (women) to himself. Clyde is rough when mating, pulls head feathers but is a fierce protector and great alpha gander but a freak!!!
Can't find anyone to take clyde..... no one around here wants a gander. Can't keep separating them at night/etc. It's too much work and watching all day long to see if Clyde has Louie down is killing me and I am tired of jumping in the pond to separate them!! Clyde had a hard life before I got him. He weighed nothing and had no chest feathers! I wnat a good home for him and am trying to give him one and he is a great Toulouse Gander but still.... WHAT DO I DO HERE to make peace on the farm?!! Clyde freaks if I put him in a pen alone or even with Bonnie during the day - jumps up and down ramming the fence trying to get out hurting himself. Can't stand to be away from the flock - separation anxiety and just too much trauma before I got him I guess who knows what happened or abuse he had.
Any serious suggestions or ideas on fixing this -- PLEASE we need help here it is disrupting our family and we'd rehome him but no good takers right now. We will not abandon him.
Thanks!
Where do I start --- I NEED HELP!!! PEACE ON THE FARM!!!
I'll start with night. I put Clyde and Bonnie (Embden) up separately in same coop with separation partition (wire). They sleep together and go up in pen together before going in coop just before dark so Louie and the rest of the flock can peacefully enjoy evening and then go up in their part of the coop.
All night Clyde pulls on wire and makes noise trying to get through screen to Louie. Off and on.
Morning I let Louie and Nanna and the 4 grown goslings (girls) out first ... they run around honking and doing their morning thing for 5 minutes and then I let Clyde and Bonnie out. Bonnie goes to tub to bathe or pond. She DGAS Doesn't give a S)#$( about everyone she does her own thing but keeps Clyde company.
When I let Clyde out he runs around honking, the whole group (louie too) runs to clyde and they all honk and flap around and fly to the pond.... then during the day Clyde starts keeping Louie at a distance. 15 feet away from group. Clyde gives Louie the eye if Louie even thinks about coming in the shade under the tree to lay wit hthe group. Clyde won't let Louie eat with everyone else - gives him the eye again!
Sometimes Clyde runs at Louie (who is MUCH LARGER THAN CLYDE) and Louie runs away - Clyde chases him to a distance and then runs back to the group squaking like "I'm the KING!" and on occasion Clyde grabs Louie (this I have a problem with!) in the middle of the back and then just starts hitting him with his wings. Sometimes Louie runs into the pond and dives and gets away - others I have had to grab Clyde (who is in a TRANCE of mad rage and doesn't even know when to stop even after I've grabbed him off Louie) and pry his beak open and off Louie... Louie runs away and Clyde is like sitting there in shock and then snaps to and wants to go to the group and celebrate which I DO NOT LET HIM DO - he goes timeout or sits with me for a minute until he snaps out of it.
What is going on here? I konw 2 ganders and all but still others have flocks of ganders that get along. Many many ganders in one flock that get along. Louie was my first goose/gander. I got Nanna and Clyde to keep company. Needed another female and got Bonnie (again who doesn't care about any of this crap) and Nanna and Louie hatched/sat raised 4 goslings. Clyde was in isolation with Bonnie during all that as Bonnie sat a nest that didn't hatch (she's new). When all went out together Clyde became obnoxious freak that won't leave Louie alone and wants to hog all the geese (women) to himself. Clyde is rough when mating, pulls head feathers but is a fierce protector and great alpha gander but a freak!!!
Can't find anyone to take clyde..... no one around here wants a gander. Can't keep separating them at night/etc. It's too much work and watching all day long to see if Clyde has Louie down is killing me and I am tired of jumping in the pond to separate them!! Clyde had a hard life before I got him. He weighed nothing and had no chest feathers! I wnat a good home for him and am trying to give him one and he is a great Toulouse Gander but still.... WHAT DO I DO HERE to make peace on the farm?!! Clyde freaks if I put him in a pen alone or even with Bonnie during the day - jumps up and down ramming the fence trying to get out hurting himself. Can't stand to be away from the flock - separation anxiety and just too much trauma before I got him I guess who knows what happened or abuse he had.
Any serious suggestions or ideas on fixing this -- PLEASE we need help here it is disrupting our family and we'd rehome him but no good takers right now. We will not abandon him.
Thanks!
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