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Makes sense. Thanks. If only I had known about vinca when I first started. It is the only flower bed that I have issues with.Sometimes ripping out a bed and starting over is the only option. Even then, you must be on top of it and not let your guard down. I have done 2 of my flower beds with hubby's help for one of them. With that one, I lifted out all the plants I wanted to keep. He then built a new border around the perimeter. We leveled the soil, I then covered the whole thing with a heavy layer of cardboard, I set in the plants, and we mulched it with valley hemlock. Hubby likes a minimalist look, so there were not a lot of plants. I, on the other hand want to fill up a flower bed so there is always something blooming. We've compromised, the bed looks nice, but plenty of the former posies and weeds are creeping back. It does not take too long to weed them out. IMO, the secret is: remove everything. Dig out the invasives by hand. A tiller merely breaks the rhizomes so more plants can form. heavy layer of cardboard or newspaper, then plant it and mulch it. One of my favorite garden tools is a spade fork.
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