Gay pairing? How to deal with it?

LamarshFish

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I have two sets of birds paired up. This is my first group of homers.

One pair seems to clearly be male and female. One looks undoubtedly female and the other undoubtedly male. They feed each other and I have witnessed them copulating.

The other pair, one is undoubtedly a cock bird, but the other it is a toss up. Both coo quite a bit, and both puff up their necks when they coo. I know females coo, but do females puff up their necks? I thought males are the only ones that puff up their necks? They have built a nest, but nest goes back and fourth in terms of how well built it is (sometimes they build it up, and then the next day it will be sort of undone. I have caught both of them sitting in the nest bowl, no eggs though. I have even caught both of them in the nest bowl at the same time. They have appeared to be paired up for a few months now, but I have not witnessed feeding each other, copulation or eggs.

First, do you think they are both males?

Second, if they are, is there a way to pair them up with known females and break up their apparent relationship? Is it as simple as building nest box fronts/doors and locking them in together for some period of time until they are paired? Do you have to make the nest box constantly dark for 24+ hours, or is that something I misunderstood when reading about breeding?

I do not want gay pairings because I only have 9 birds and want more, and these two particular birds are very nice birds, and the one I am certain is a cock is a very nice bird, excellent looking and has been on many trips and homes very well. He's at the top of the pecking order in my loft.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
They may both be males, but the behavior you describe is not unusual for females or for mated pairs. Some pairs can be broken up easily, and others are very resistant to separation . I have had several female/female pairings when the birds are separated in the fall, but once I introduced them to the cocks all returned to their original mates. I had one male/male pair that would not be separated - I used them as fosters.
 
They may both be males, but the behavior you describe is not unusual for females or for mated pairs. Some pairs can be broken up easily, and others are very resistant to separation . I have had several female/female pairings when the birds are separated in the fall, but once I introduced them to the cocks all returned to their original mates. I had one male/male pair that would not be separated - I used them as fosters.

Thanks. Are you saying both males and females coo with their necks puffed out / flared?
 
Yes, both can, but hens are generally more subtle and will usually not tail fan and drag behind their mate. Every August I would separate hens and cocks. I would reintroduce them to one another Feb. 14 - call me a romantic. :p Upon reintroduction a mating frenzy would take place, and hens were frequently more aggressive than the cocks. And upon reintroduction their courting was frequently more aggressive than the cocks. I don't anthropomorphize animals, but their reactions looked to me like sheer joy at being back together. Generally established pairs would remate. Hens will also top cocks. Some hens will cheat on their mates as will cocks. All in all pigeons are intriguing creatures.
 
Yes, both can, but hens are generally more subtle and will usually not tail fan and drag behind their mate. Every August I would separate hens and cocks. I would reintroduce them to one another Feb. 14 - call me a romantic. :p Upon reintroduction a mating frenzy would take place, and hens were frequently more aggressive than the cocks. And upon reintroduction their courting was frequently more aggressive than the cocks. I don't anthropomorphize animals, but their reactions looked to me like sheer joy at being back together. Generally established pairs would remate. Hens will also top cocks. Some hens will cheat on their mates as will cocks. All in all pigeons are intriguing creatures.

Assuming they are a gay pair, is there something I can do to break it up? What if I lock each of them in a nest box with known females? Will they forget about their gay mate and pair up with that female? If so, how long would that take?
 
Hi Lamarsh

Years ago I had 2 beautiful dark Tigre flights that became a pair. They flew great and stayed in the same nest box for years. One year I separated them and brought them downstairs to the breeding coops. They didn't see eachother. I put them with 2 separate hens and wanted young ones out of them. After breeding season was over , I let the both pairs out and they flew back into the flying coop. Within minutes they found eachother and got thier same nest box back. I can't remember how the young ones turned out but that was the last year that I tried to separate them. I just let them be...
 
Yes, both can, but hens are generally more subtle and will usually not tail fan and drag behind their mate. Every August I would separate hens and cocks. I would reintroduce them to one another Feb. 14 - call me a romantic. :p Upon reintroduction a mating frenzy would take place, and hens were frequently more aggressive than the cocks. And upon reintroduction their courting was frequently more aggressive than the cocks. I don't anthropomorphize animals, but their reactions looked to me like sheer joy at being back together. Generally established pairs would remate. Hens will also top cocks. Some hens will cheat on their mates as will cocks. All in all pigeons are intriguing creatures.
Cool, thanks for sharing!:D
 
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