German Shepherd Shot

The pound did come out and said she did the right thing. The guy said next time to take the dead dog to the road, but they will take it this time. Either I did a poor job of communicating, or you are in grievous error. Things adding up to the death sentence: Running wild (more than once), on our property, no tags, killing livestock, threat of killing my smaller dogs with a chain link fence, and coming towards a woman defending her livestock. Really your response is pretty crummy.
 
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The former option is my preference. Dogs influence on predator abundance, especially mammals, is not subject to debate. Dogs reduce abundance of wild cannids and racoons by displacement or outright killing them. Conserted hunting efforts not required. During coon season, we have to go farther from house than dogs typical roamed to even expect to hit a coon track. Deer abundance, I agree, is a function of hunting pressure and now increased availability of suitable habitat.

Not all dogs confined now but it is expected norm. County to my south leash law applies. I could not keep chickens as free range like now because dog would not be allowed.
 
This reminds me of my policy that I greatly hesitate to tell anyone stories about Iraq because they never understand unless they have been there. Perhaps I should extend that to elimination of predators.
I get it- I'm the terrible person, not her. My farmer grandfather would have done something he almost never did- laugh, if he read this. You pontificate that I should not have instructed my wife to shoot dogs that are inside of my coop, in the process of killing my chickens? That I should call the county to come out while this killing spree is in progress? I'll tell you what, I have a sign in my driveway that says, "Thieves will be shot; survivors will be prosecuted." I extend this to dogs running free threatening the peace of our neighborhood. Also, something about our neighborhood: I have never seen one of my neighbors with a German Shepherd, but someone had one. Also, one mile away is an extensive run of trailer slum. There are people that get dogs and do not get them shots (no rabies shot tags on these dogs), no ID tag, and a history of dogs coming onto my and my neighbors property.

How do I remove this post? I'm fed up with the few who lecture me.
 
Your poor wife!!!

I immediately thought of my German Shepherd. He is a young dog and if he could he would kill my chickens. He's not aggressive toward them, but he's just a pup and they're all "squeaky toys" to him. If he got out of his yard and attacked the neighbor's livestock, I would totally understand, even though I would be devistated.

Your wife was very brave. I don't think I could do it, although I once took an axe and chopped up a 5-foot snake that was eating chicks.
 
I would remind everyone who criticizes the OP to review the sticky rules at the top of Predators & Pests. Oh, never mind, I'll post them again since folks just can't seem to remember where they are or they conveniently ignore them:

I just want to make clear the purpose of this forum.

*This forum is for dealing with predators and pests. Period.

*If information is graphic, please note it in the subject line of your post so members can make a decision whether they want to open the thread or not. If you choose to open a thread with said warnings, it is not BYC's responsibility when you are offended.

*Dealing with predators and pests is not always pleasant. Although sometimes hard to do, please be as sensitive as possible when explaining procedures and results. Some younger members and/or squeamish adults will appreciate it.

*Although some ways are not considered ideal to some, it serves the purpose of removing the offending predator. If you have an idea or a helpful comment, please do reply. If it is a sarcastic comment about the disposal or capture of a predator, please keep your thoughts to yourself. We are not here to judge one another on methods or ways and means.

*That being said, please do not gloat or suggest torturous ways of killing for pleasure or indeed, post in such a way that your predator control can be construed as pleasure killing instead of simply taking care of a problem.

*Compassion will go a long way toward helping to educate and help solve someone's predator problem. No matter the reason, most members' birds are their pets and being a chicken doesn't make it less of a pet than a house cat or companion dog. Please don't lecture or hassle anyone about their losses. Glass houses......

*If you wish to suggest an alternate non lethal means of control, please share it in a non judgmental way that is a viable solution and not merely complaining about who was here first etc, IF it is directly related to the OP's request for assistance. If a non lethal alternative is offered, please be appreciative and remember that there are many ways and means and flaming a member for suggesting such an alternative will not be tolerated.

*It is the responsibility of the person with the predator to determine the legalities of what they do and that person will take ultimate responsibility. BYC does not condone illegal acts.

For instance, Trapping..this is a legal defense and it is not open for debate whether you prefer this method or not. This forum is designed as an aid to those who are having predator problems. It is not a debate forum on ethics.

*Please keep this in mind as we all learn from one another how to deter predators. Thanks.
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Jim.......I understand where your coming from but some of just have a different take. JC's wife in my mind was very courageous in what she did. When a dog, especially one as large as that one, has just killed and was in a state of excitement, what would you do if you find out he is not going to stop? Needless to say what a shot she is, the main thing here is that paticular dog will not have the chance to again roam and kill.

As for roaming dog keeping down the predators, it's been my experence that roaming dogs are one of the greatest forms of predators. I've had friend loose almost all his herd of goats to "wild dogs". Those are defined as dogs that run in a pack that had owners at some point in their lives and for whatever reason were dumped. A friend close to me here lost 4 goats, 2 llamas, and one sheep to dogs. So on my part please let me have the privilege of protecting my 20 acres. I prefer to let my own dog patrol my place, tell me when I need a gun so I can keep the predator population down to a manageable number. That works for me.

A new neighbor that bought a place in front of me got two dogs. Two chow mix. She feeds um in a wash tub and has never had anything done to or for them because she can't catch the mutts. They have not been touched since they got to her place by human hand. I see them with ticks almost as large a marbles hanging off their eye lids. If I could catch um I would fix that but I can't either. The female is on her second litter now and she's not 2 yet. They roam the neighborhood, about 100 acres at will. If I ever catch them back here at the house, that's where they will stay. I will bury them myself. She don't want them other as being, as she put it, a warning if anybody come down the drive.

So we all have our ways and needs. I need to protect my flock anyway I find suitable. But unlike JC, I take what you say and go on with no remorse for you and continue on my merry way looking after my flock and animals my way.

Bless you and yours.
 
Wow! Here we can't have guns without licences etc so it's not something I'll ever have to deal with. I can see, though, why your wife had to do what she did and good on her. We have local dogs that have hurt our birds and we've had to put in an electrified fencing perimeter.
 
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