Getting Frustrated with Flock Intergrations,Advice Needed...*long*

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Maybe someone can help with this problem....I'm running out of ideas and getting frustrated with this integration that I thought we had all worked out..
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It started with our one BR hen going broody back in June. We left her and the eggs in the tractor until they hatched, then moved them to the brooder just in case the other two hens would hurt the babies. Mom and babies stayed in the brooder until about 5 weeks ago.
The first integration didn't go well since the BR was still in Momma mode and tried to hurt the remaining adult hen. (The other had a prolapse and had to be put down, she was too flighty for anyone to help her.
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) So, dh put up a divider between the broody and the babies and the other hen. That worked well because the chicks were able to run underneath the wire betweeen both hens.
The other hen, Hannah, never bothered the little ones, and as a couple of weeks went by, the broody calmed down, the wire came down, and all was peaceful.
Well, flash foward to this week. The chicks are 9 weeks old, the broody is completely out of Momma mode and now BOTH adult hens are ganging up on the chicks!
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I know that some bullying is normal to get the chicks to forage for themselves, but this is rediculous what the two hens are doing. They have thier own layer pellets, oyster shell,and plenty of treats, but are bullying the chicks, hogging the chick starter/growe because it's crumbles, not pellets, and anytime one of the chicks ever try to come down from the roost, the adults flog the heck out of them, so the chicks run back upstairs where they have no acess to food OR water.
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I've tried everything from chicken jail for over a few days, to squirting them when they try to harass the younger ones.
Nothing is working, so after the poor young ones were up most of the day in the roost where it's really hot, and two drenched hens, I put them back in chicken jail where they are going to stay. It's too small for two grown hens to stay in for weeks at a time, so the only thing that dh and I can do is to take our extra large dog carrier, and make a separate pen and run for the adults until the chicks get closer to the adult hens size.


I'm just really frustrated that after thinking that everything was finally settling down, now the order is all messed up again, and I am not going to risk having any of my babies hurt or starving because of two greedy hens.
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Anyone have any suggestions? I'm already dreading a 9+ week seperation and then having to go through this AGAIN with two roos thrown into the mix.
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Thanks.
 
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Do they all have plenty of room to run around? How big is their coop and run? Do they free-range? I would put extra food and water up where the chicks can get it until you figure things out, but I have no experience with hen-raised chicks.
 
They have a 8'X 7' foot chicken mobile alpine style tractor to run around in during the day. They do not have a run because we move the tractor daily for fresh grass, clover, etc and they do get to free range for at least two hours in the evening after I get home from the pool with the kids where we've been for a couple of hours, when we let everyone out to flap and do the popcorn flying and forage thing.
I did try the food and water up in the roost and nesting boxes, but the two adult bullies went up there and harrased the chicks also. It's not a matter of the chicks messing with the adults, the adults have gotten too full of themselves and think that they have first dibs on everything.

The chicks are so afraid of the big girls that if they come even within 10' of them while free ranging, they run and that is what I'm NOT liking. Even today, when one of the adult hens got near the tractor when free ranging, she still just HAD to go and get in the chick feed. When I took that away from her, she started picking on the chicks that had an apple off of our tree that wasn't usable. Made my blood boil seeing that bullying going on.
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Even though I don't like it, it's looking like separating them until the young chicks get older is going to have to happen....
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Fine repayment of a great broody/Momma hen to her offspring(not related, hatching eggs). And then the other adult hen joining in, just too much.
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Put in a creep feeder: section off one part with a chick sized door,and put the chick feed inside, so that chicks can come in and eat, but the hens can't, make it big enough where the chicks can escape for peace, untill they're large enough to handle the hens.
 
I think that they are too crowded in that tractor. If I am counting right, you have 14 chickens in an 8 by 7 tractor? That seems way crowded, and I bet the older chickens are feeling like they don't have enough resources (space and food) to share. If they free-ranged all day, I bet it would work out (just use the tractor for sleeping), but I don't think they can get along succesfully without more space--they really should have 140 sq.ft. or more of run area if they are cooped up most of the time.
 

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