Ginger Red Genetics

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by RAREROO, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    Hi What is the Genetics behind the Ginger Red color ? How is it made and what other colors can it be bred to to get more Ginger reds? ( other than Silver Ginger)

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  2. ve

    ve Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ginger red color is exprecion of Db (Dark Brown) gene over e+;or eb.In USA only breeds with this color are Ginger Red Games and Buff Catalana.Db gene is a part of the make-up of other breeds-Campine,Golden Laced Polish,Sebright,
     
  3. Hankow Fowl

    Hankow Fowl Out Of The Brooder

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    Black Breasted Red or Dark Brown with the Db gene ( the gene is to make a black-tailed white, buff or red in the male while at the same time not removing all the stippling from the body of the female.)

    There is a theory that allows for true-breeding Ginger Reds. It assumes that there is a columbian-like gene in Brown Reds, which produces the hackle striping in both sexes, and which when mated to Black Breasted Reds will produce some true-breeding Ginger Reds.
     
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  4. catwalk

    catwalk Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I don't remember who to give credit to for this chart, but somebody on BYC spelled BBR combos out really well. I saved the chart for future use, and I've referred to it countless times!
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    I can't read it very well here, but if you save it and enlarge it, you might be able to use it. Ginger red is the first sprout off of the upper right corner of the central BBR square.
     
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  5. RAREROO

    RAREROO Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Its Chris09 that credit should be given to for posting all those charts for us. I have also found that chart and have been talking to Chris via PM sense I posted this and I think I have got it figured now.

    Thanks
     
  6. Hankow Fowl

    Hankow Fowl Out Of The Brooder

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    Quote:Old English Game Bantams as Bred and Shown in the United States

    By F.P.Jeffrey and William Richardson page 69
     
  7. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:The Db kind of red ginger could breed true. There is a not-true-breeding mimic based on the columbian gene. These have to be heterozygous (not pure) to allow black pattern on the hens' backs.

    Anything crossed to another color is not true breeding anymore... [​IMG]
     
  8. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Quote:Old English Game Bantams as Bred and Shown in the United States

    By F.P.Jeffrey and William Richardson page 69


    Correct,
    Black Breasted Red Family - Old English Game bantams as Bred and Shown in the United States [​IMG] 1995
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    Chris
     
  9. WallabyOfChaos

    WallabyOfChaos Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Does anyone know where I can find this book? Google and eBay have both failed me in my search.
     
  10. TShelton54

    TShelton54 Out Of The Brooder

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    The chart looks like one of the late Fred Jeffries, although I made some in the late nineties also. Tim
     

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