GMO discussion with teacher

[RHRanch]

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Thats a good question. It probably depends on how you look at the problem. See, GMOs can mean so many things - it can mean a plant that is selected for certain traits or it can mean a plant (or animal) with traits (genes) inserted into it. Those traits can be from the same species or from different ones. If you are talking about a plant that has been modified using other plant genes, that may not be so bad, but if you are inserting rat genetics into it, i would say you are a weirdo. LOL

No, I actually don't think that GMOs that use less water are a good thing, the result of that would be more people living in an area that was not meant to be farmed to begin with and it will just make the overall world population increase. Adding to the problem.

so the best thing would be to cut the number of people ??

No, best thing is to either control our population or better manage our use of resources. Or to do both. Humans are selfish and will do neither, unfortunately.

 

[hemet dennis]

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so the best thing would be to cut the number of people ??

No, best thing is to either control our population or better manage our use of resources. Or to do both. Humans are selfish and will do neither, unfortunately.

but controlling the population has already been done

 

[RHRanch]

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No, best thing is to either control our population or better manage our use of resources. Or to do both. Humans are selfish and will do neither, unfortunately.

but controlling the population has already been done

Either you are making a joke about the sociological control of the bureaucracy and institutions or you must be referring to the population control in which we destroy ourselves through consumption.

 

[Matthew3590]

He might be refferring to places like japan that went through "population control" as in 2 kids are enough and now japan is in a state where not enough kids are being born.

 

[hemet dennis]

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but controlling the population has already been done

Either you are making a joke about the sociological control of the bureaucracy and institutions or you must be referring to the population control in which we destroy ourselves through consumption.

no some 20 years ago China made it a law that a couple could only have one child to slow their population growth

 

[LiLRedCV]

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To answer your last question: Soylent Green

I, personally, do NOT support GMO's (or cloned livestock) as a food source and feel it needs to be labeled accordingly so that any of us who want to avoid it can. I believe it should be the CONSUMERS CHOICE - not some big money grubbing corporation who's only eyeing the bottom line of the almighty $$$.

GMO corporations, such as Monsanto, own the patents on these crops which means that you can't save the seeds from a previous crop to use the following year without garnering their permission and paying them more of your hard-earned $$$. THERE ARE NO PATENTS ON NON-GMO PLANTS!! Anyone can save the seeds they produce from their non-GMO crops and use them any time they want without the permission garnered from some corporation.

At this rate, these companies will hold the rights to all our food sources and you'll have no say in the matter. How does that help everyone, the haves vs the have nots? It only helps the corporations control your lives even more than they already do. (follow the money!!)

Think about all the food allergies out there these days... they were almost unheard of when I was a child and now they're rampant. What about the increase in child behavioral issues? Again, when I was a child, it was almost unheard of that a child "needed" medication to get through their school day. What about the increase in cancer? Yet again, when I was a child, there wasn't this huge need of having a cancer center in every major city. Who's to say it's not all related to the GMO's being spliced and diced with DNA that's not natural to those plants? We just don't know!

When it comes to the (alleged) safety studies of GMOs? The GMO corporations do their own studies and then submit their (alleged) findings to the FDA & USDA who then (allegedly) review these studies and approve them for human consumption. Neither of these government agencies actually do any of the studies needed!! That's much like letting the fox into your hen house for a weekend stay and then expecting your flock to be in good health when you let him out. (follow the money!!)

But to break it down for those of you wondering about whether or not your food is, in fact, GMO? If it doesn't say "Certified Organic", the odds are it's GMO. Even then, there's still a slight chance an organic crop has been contaminated by a GMO crop just down the road.

We live in a very chemical world and in a time when corporations are convinced they're our Gods now.

I'm of the belief that if we keep messing around with Mother Nature or God s/he'll come back and bite us in the tush for it in a very big way.

 

[LiLRedCV]

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Either you are making a joke about the sociological control of the bureaucracy and institutions or you must be referring to the population control in which we destroy ourselves through consumption.

no some 20 years ago China made it a law that a couple could only have one child to slow their population growth

China's one child policy was implemented in 1978. And Bill Gates has already admitted more than once to the fact his Foundations vaccine program is an attempt at global population control.

 

[hemet dennis]

boy i hate long post that bring up so many different things i just don't know where to start

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To answer your last question: Soylent Green

I, personally, do NOT support GMO's (or cloned livestock) as a food source and feel it needs to be labeled accordingly so that any of us who want to avoid it can. I believe it should be the CONSUMERS CHOICE - not some big money grubbing corporation who's only eyeing the bottom line of the almighty $$$.

SO IT WOULD SEEM THAT YOU DON'T LIKE CORPORATIONS AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LABELED GMO's BUT WHAT % OF WHATS IN THAT CAN HAS TO BE FROM A GMO TO GET THE LABEL

GMO corporations, such as Monsanto, own the patents on these crops which means that you can't save the seeds from a previous crop to use the following year without garnering their permission and paying them more of your hard-earned $$$. THERE ARE NO PATENTS ON NON-GMO PLANTS!! Anyone can save the seeds they produce from their non-GMO crops and use them any time they want without the permission garnered from some corporation.

At this rate, these companies will hold the rights to all our food sources and you'll have no say in the matter. How does that help everyone, the haves vs the have nots? It only helps the corporations control your lives even more than they already do. (follow the money!!)

SO YOU ARE SAYING SOON THERE WILL ONLY BE GMO CROPS ?

Think about all the food allergies out there these days... they were almost unheard of when I was a child and now they're rampant. What about the increase in child behavioral issues? Again, when I was a child, it was almost unheard of that a child "needed" medication to get through their school day. What about the increase in cancer? Yet again, when I was a child, there wasn't this huge need of having a cancer center in every major city. Who's to say it's not all related to the GMO's being spliced and diced with DNA that's not natural to those plants? We just don't know!

NOW TELL ME WHEN YOU WENT TO SCHOOL THERE WAS A COUPLE OF KIDS THAT NOW DAYS WOULD BE PUT ON MEDS SO THATS JUST A PEOPLE NOT BEING PARENTS GIVE THE KID A COUPLE PILLS THAT WILL CALM HIM DOWN
AND THE CANCER WELL PEOPLE LIVE SO MUCH LONGER NOW SO IS THERE REALLY AN INCREASE IN CANCER OR AN INCREASE IN OLD PEOPLE AND WHO IS TO SAY IT'S NOT RELATED TO MEN LANDING ON THE MOON

When it comes to the (alleged) safety studies of GMOs? The GMO corporations do their own studies and then submit their (alleged) findings to the FDA & USDA who then (allegedly) review these studies and approve them for human consumption. Neither of these government agencies actually do any of the studies needed!! That's much like letting the fox into your hen house for a weekend stay and then expecting your flock to be in good health when you let him out. (follow the money!!)

I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE MORE OVERSIGHT ON THESE STUDIES THEN YOU WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO BELIEVE

But to break it down for those of you wondering about whether or not your food is, in fact, GMO? If it doesn't say "Certified Organic", the odds are it's GMO. Even then, there's still a slight chance an organic crop has been contaminated by a GMO crop just down the road.

We live in a very chemical world and in a time when corporations are convinced they're our Gods now.

WHO ARE CORPORATIONS THEY ARE LARGE SOME ARE SMALL BUT THEY ARE ALL PEOPLE THEY ARE OWNED BY PEOPLE AND RUN BY PEOPLE TO MAKE MONEY FOR PEOPLE

I'm of the belief that if we keep messing around with Mother Nature or God s/he'll come back and bite us in the tush for it in a very big way.

AND WE WOULD HAVE TO START A NEW FORUM TO GO THROUGH THE GOD THING
AND I DID THIS IN CAP SO WHAT I SAID WOULD STICK OUT FROM THE QUOTE IT'S NOT YELLING

 

[hemet dennis]

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no some 20 years ago China made it a law that a couple could only have one child to slow their population growth

China's one child policy was implemented in 1978. And Bill Gates has already admitted more than once to the fact his Foundations vaccine program is an attempt at global population control.

I don't know about the Gates thing so i wont comment on that
so did China's policy work or not ?

 

[hemet dennis]

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no some 20 years ago China made it a law that a couple could only have one child to slow their population growth

China's one child policy was implemented in 1978. And Bill Gates has already admitted more than once to the fact his Foundations vaccine program is an attempt at global population control.

Well i looked some at the gates thing, so what do you mean by population control is he trying to expand it ?