GMO discussion with teacher

[HarlansHollowFarms]

Goodness, all the bickering...

As a scientist, I believe in survival of the fittest: NOW LETS ALL CONSIDER THAT....

Most, if not all of the medication on the market is modified,........ stop taking it, it is not good for you!
Do not grow food in areas that do not have the water or other necessary resources, stop sending food to those areas to save people, solves the population problem. Just let nature take care of those who can not grow their own food.....they will die so will the children, but do not fear this is survival of the fittest, just nature!

Back in the good ole days, the life expectancy of the average was 35....lets go back, less population problems.

Not as much cancer or other health and mental problems back in the good ole days....probably not, we just did not hear about it because of the lack of communication and people died much younger, so those problems may not have had time to surface!

This is a very complicated subject, with no easy answers. We can all have our opinions, but I do not think any ONE is right.

I love living in a world where I will live to an age where I can enjoy my grand kids and great grand kids. And it is because of science and technology that this is possible for a great number of people, instead of just a few with great genes!

It is called: EVERYTHING IN MODERATION!

 

[RHRanch]

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[hemet dennis]

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You should read my posts - I already said that I don't think we should tell people that, (but I only think that because of the potential abuse or eradication of unpopular races/ethnic groups, like what we tried to do to the Native Americans in the US). I also said that there is no hope of people doing it voluntarily, they are too selfish and if no one else is doing it, why should they?

Sorry, I haven't read all the pages. I do agree with you though.

we could do like China and you could only have one kid

 

[Hrobinson]

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Suing is one thing and COLLECTING is another. Don't you think?

My argument would start with the fact that each subsequent generation is a GMO and go from there. Mapping the DNA of corn kernels next to each other on the cob would show slight potential differences IMHO and that what Monsanto did was equivalent to coitus with Mother Nature... the ultimate Oedipan nightmare.

BTW Some Amish farmers love GMO's too. -h

 

[punk-a-doodle]

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Here's a solution to that problem. Everyone who says that there are too many of us, must be the first to volunteer to remove themselves from the equation.......Oh, that puts a different spin on things, doesn't it? It's all those other people, who are crowding everything up.

Actually, I have no children so when I go thats it.

Your in the minority as far as that goes though

And that was my point when I said that our big problem is population and thats not going to get fixed since everyone is reproducing so much.
Also, I wanted to point out that my stance on population is not hypocritical since I am not contributing to it.

Yup, add me in for not having kids mainly for reasons involving overpopulation. A few other reasons too, but that is the main reason as to why I will not be having children. Fostering and/or adoption is the avenue I'll be using, but only because there are so many teens and older children who still need homes. If everyone theoretically had a home, I still would not be having kids, and would just completely go without. What other people do is their choice, but will likely increasingly not be as warfare and fighting for resources increase as well as government pressure.​

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

I do not have issue with GMOs per say. I have issue with them putting pesticides/weed killers in my food that I cant wash off an saying its the same thing. I have issue with not labeling. I should decide if it is the same not some congressmen. I have issue with someone owning a food crop. I have issue the destruction of our biodiversity by way of cross contamination. I have issue with the attack on the seed saving industry to the point of wiping it out. I have issue with mono-crops. I have issue with us selling for less than cost of production, flooding the market, driving the locals out of business an making the world population dependent on the US food market.

 

[mhwc56]

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These are ALL VERY IMPORTANT POINTS!

 

[SkyWarrior]

I disagree with the basic principle of adding genes where the gene would never appear in the wild (animal gene in plants as one example).

Montana does not allow GMOs to be grown.

Even so, I understand the basic need for improving agriculture, but at what cost? We really don't know how GMOs will affect our food or our crops. And cloning, flat out, limits genetic diversity to a point where an entire crop or herd can be wiped out by a single disease.

I am for scientific improvements, but even I see some folly behind splicing genes to create Frankenfood.

Just my thoughts.

 

[SkyWarrior]

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Yep, I agree with this. Well said.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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Suing is one thing and COLLECTING is another. Don't you think?

Yep, problem is that Monsanto has deeper pockets than you an I. Most court cases are held up for years till the farmer is bankrupt for legal costs. The ones that do make it to court usually loose. Unlike criminal court, civil court does not have to prove anything. You have to prove you did nothing wrong. Ever tried to prove a negative.