Goat Wormer Recommendations - SafeGuard No Longer Effective!

What dosage were you using on the Levasole? For goats, it should be 1.5x the sheep dose. Levasole is tricky, though....unlike the whites and clears, it's NOT safe to overdo. You can definitely OD a goat on levamisole, and yeah...they'll croak if you do. Definitely important to get your weights right.

My vet put me on the trail for Levasole.. Asked if I'd ever used it, and I said no.. He told me it was a really old wormer that he'd heard of some goat people going back to, and with great success.. They key was that it's something that most worm populations hadn't seen in 20 years, since the point when avermectins hit the market. Most cattle folks apparently dropped Levasole like a hot rock when Ivomec came out, since Levasole was losing its effect at that point anyway...and most never went back. By the time goats started getting hot in the US, Levasole was a distant memory so people went straight to white and clear wormers..

Of course, you can't hardly find Levasole anymore. I managed to find a partial bottle of sheep boluses and bought it.. Haven't used any of it yet, though.. Saving it for a "nuclear option." My goats were the first stock on the ground here probably in decades, so there shouldn't hardly be a worm on the place that could withstand levamisole.

And, for what it's worth...I personally know of at least 8 goats around here that died of a parasite burden this year after having been dosed with multiple rounds of Cydectin pour-on, orally, at a rate of about 1ml/20lbs. Two of those, I saw with my own eyes...helped drag one off. Not mine, mind you...on a buddy's farm. Still, it was a little disconcerting to say the least since Cydectin was supposedly the "nuclear option" maybe two years ago.
 
Still, it was a little disconcerting to say the least since Cydectin was supposedly the "nuclear option" maybe two years ago.

I lost a couple of lambs after worming them with Cydectin. I have no faith in it at all

I'm on my last bag of Prohibit drench, and I'm not sure what will happen whne it runs out​
 
IF all else fails I can still get levasole here. I may need to go get some before the present stock runs out if folks are finding it works. I have never used it before so maybe mine aren't resistant.
 
If you can still get Levasole, get it if only to have it on hand. Every single one of the major catalog mail order places have had it listed as unavailable for months now. My guess is that if it's on the shelf at a farm store somewhere, it's been there a while...which is fine, if the expiration date is long enough out. When they go to reorder, though...I think they may be in for a surprise if they've not heard about the shortage.
 
don't know what size mine are but I use empty human vitamin capsules that I have blown out with canned air. I blow them out just in case there is something the goats don't need. I then weigh out the copper rods and fill the empty capsules. I didn't need 1000 of the empty caps so this works for me.
 
I got a bag of '000' sized capsules from a health food store. I paid like $10 for 100 capsules, which is too much, but I didn't wanna wait on shipping. You can pretty easily find them online for half that, at most.

Now, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY*, I think a '000' sized capsule will hold right about 4.5g if you pack it full. That's according to my digital gram scale, which is really accurate down to 1/10th of a gram. It's basically a drug dealer scale, so you know it can be trusted.**
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Packing a '000' capsule full is actually more difficult than it sounds, but it does get easier as you get the hang of it. In order to pack it full, you fill the large half completely, then fill the smaller to just below the 'clicky' part where the whole thing snaps together...and then you have to put it together and make it 'click' without losing any. It's tricky, but doable.

My advice, though, would be to pick up a scale. They're not cheap, but with all the off-label med use in goats, I sorta doubt copper bolusing will be the only thing I use it for. Dosing ammonium chloride hits me right off the bat, or even dosing out levasole soluble powder if I were to have that..


* -- don't hold me to it.

** -- I got my scale at a head shop. Seriously. I went in and asked for a gram scale, and in my wariness of the whole sketchy place I sorta felt compelled to tell the girl what I was gonna do with it...copper, goats, etc. Anyway, she listened patiently until I was awkwardly silent and then went "Mmmhmm.. A likely story." I didn't really know what to say at first, but then she cracked up and I cracked up and everything was much better after that. Nice people, as it turns out.
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I just read this part about a wormer, which I'm trying to find one that will treat giardia symptoms, and internal and external worms in my chickens, there is a levamisole avail at Foy's pigeon supply on their on line catalogue. thought I would mention that,
Mary
For the copper bolus, what size of empty capsules would you suggest for large breed goats (such as Boers)? They average 100 pounds right now.
 
there is a levamisole avail at Foy's pigeon supply on their on line catalogue

That's not the same dosage as used for sheep and goats.
They have a "100 g" bottle for almost $18 It says it contains 7.5 GRAMS of Levamisole

The "Prohibit Drench" for sheep and goats is 52 GRAMS of powder for about the same price.
It contains 48.5 GRAMS of active ingredient​
 

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