Golden Cuckoo Rocks

khall you might do well to look into the other features that make Rocks, Rocks. Clean yellow legs is nice but what makes a rock is it's unique shape, head carriage and tail set. A few dozen breeds have yellow legs. I'd suggest getting and reading the breed standard, since you can't breed for something you don't understand. Including back length, width, stance, breast size and shape, wing carriage and tail set.

Those few people who have bred a gold barred bird haven't pictures that I have found.

Only a few people have toyed with it because it would be a major project, involving many generations, a LOT of birds and quite a bit of growing out and of culling.

That's a lot of time and money. In general you won't see the quality of adult build and barring until well toward the end of the first year, even the feathering after the first moult can be slightly better or worse.

There's throwing birds together and calling them gold barred rocks and there's actively breeding real rocks.

While one may be absently attractive to people who don't appreciate the difference between production bred and quality birds, the other has actual value.
 
If not trying to maintain the beautiful clean barring of the top quality barred rocks, a typey barred golden birchen, like golden cuckoo Marans ought not to be too difficult to attain. The beautiful tidy barring would be more difficult to achieve than regaining type or attaining the irregular barred gold birchen effect.
A buff barred rocks of less crisp barring would be also relatively easy as type wouldn't have to be lost by outcrossing to another breed.
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krys thanks and I think the buff barred is a good and simple way to get a very pretty gold barred bird.

The GCM cross makes sense but there's a lot of loss of type to the cross - still I think the GCMs are gorgeous and even have a few in the bator - how'd that happen? LOL. Might that particular project be sitting at the back of my head... probably huh? It'd be happening in the meat bird pen but what the heck...


I really appreciate the help from you and the other experienced gene people.

I love the barred or cuckooed goldens... I just happen to really love Rock type. So I've been fiddling with it as a thought for awhile.

Speaking of gold birchen what bantam breeds carry it - do you know any?
 
Sorry I don't know much about the bantam breeds. A bit about the genetics of bantams that's about it. I've seen birchen in Pekin/cochin bantams; many of the games; not sure about silkies (Suze of Sonoran Silkies would know that).

Making any new colour of a breed takes time & patience. It is like a maths problem, there are various methods for getting to the same answer, where the answer is the desired plumage genotype.
 
Suze said silkies don't carry birchen
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And if I can avoid game temperament... I kind of prefer to. I think I'll go surf feathersite. Can you tell me if a bird is gold birchen by phenotype? I've never seen birchen or gold birchen in person. Thanks again
 
If I can find a silver birchen bantam can I make gold birchen somehow??? Can I breed a silver bantam hen to the male I have and push that way?
 
A gold birchen could be made from a silver birchen.
A copper black or brown red is a gold birchen with mahogany. Lemon blue is a gold birchen with blue replacing the black. Another name is crowwing.
 

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