Granny's gone and done it again

[h2oratt]

I did read they need to go into rem sleep where they dream and to let them but Im sure he is having nightmares. IDK why. Makes me feel bad

Don’t worry about it. I just leave mine alone.

 

[Rambling Iris]

Good morning, Granny Land! Hope everyone is sleeping late and getting a good rest. I just got up and am drinking my first cup of coffee. I don't have a lot to do today hopefully I will get to rest a little. I'm going out now to check the broody hens, catch you later.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

Gmorning, I went to sleep after 3am and was up for the day by 6. Im very tired.
Kevin and his dad just left. They have the tree topped out with only the trunk left to do. Lots of clean up is needed too. It was at least 50-60 ft. tall and bushy in the top. All the shade is gone now too from back there. I think it will throw some heat in the house.
Food came today. Milk was just in time as the other from before expired tomorrow.
Watching wonder woman, series. No naked people this Sunday. Its shark week but it will start back next Sunday.
Robert went back to sleep, Tom went back to sleep. Shoot, even the critters are sleeping.Everyone but me of course. Im too nervous I think.

 

[microchick]

Happy Saturday everyone. I'm embarrassed to admit that I slept in till 8:30 this morning. I was up at 5 to let the dogs out.

Speaking of dreaming dogs, our two border collie/Jack Russell and border collie/hound mix brother and sister are very vivid dreamers. They yip, whine, bark, growl and sometimes even howl in their sleep. I've been known to bend low over their ears and whisper 'get'em' or 'get the rabbit' in their ears causing them to vocalize louder and even run in their sleep. They eventually wake themselves up barking louder. The red heelers don't seem to dream a vividly as they do. Feet twitch, soft whines is all they do. Do dogs have nightmares? Oh I'm sure they do just like we do. Gentle strokes, words and pats to wake them up is what I do with Buck and Spotty Dog when they are growling in their sleep and act disturbed.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

@Cynthia12 Im in a bad mood and Tom put me here. I have been fighting to keep him up since 3pm. I finally got a sandwich down him about 3:30 then did what I normally do and that's give him his shot and get his night meds ready for 5. Robert even promised him home baked cookies if he stayed up. He tried to take his meds at 3:30 and I had to tell him many times it was too early and he argued with me. He has never done that before. I thought it was settled but before I could even sit down he had half of them gone. I asked why, he said its time... Back and forth all over again and as Im telling him for the 10th time he looks at me and takes the rest of them. 5 mins pass and he is asking to go to bed. I said, You know what? I'm done arguing with you. I dumped his urinal and followed him to his room and helped him to bed while Robert was in his room telling me to not let him go. I told Robert I was done fussing with him over it. I know he will be back up before bed time.
What did I do wrong???

 

[microchick]

Granny I know you tagged Cynthia, but I'm going to pipe in. You didn't do anything wrong. You cannot fight with a person with dementia and win the argument ever.

This is something that you need to talk to his home health care nurse about and ultimately his doctor. There are medications that they can give him to mellow him out and make him not so difficult to, I hate to use the word control but that is basically what it is.

I'm sorry you are having to deal with this by yourself but it sounds like Robert is trying to help you.

Yep, too early to take PM meds. If these are bedtime meds he should be taking them at 8 pm. Is it possible for you to keep the meds out of his reach? That might be a start.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

Yes, I told him and Robert I wont make that mistake again with the meds. He has already been back up wanting to know why I was up so early. I sent him back to bed.
I didn't use the word argue right. We weren't arguing. I just had to keep repeating myself as to the time.

Granny I know you tagged Cynthia, but I'm going to pipe in.

And that's fine for anyone that wants to chime in. I tagged Cynthia because she has gone thru this with her late DH not that long ago.

 

[Rambling Iris]

Yes, I told him and Robert I wont make that mistake again with the meds. He has already been back up wanting to know why I was up so early. I sent him back to bed.
I didn't use the word argue right. We weren't arguing. I just had to keep repeating myself as to the time.

And that's fine for anyone that wants to chime in. I tagged Cynthia because she has gone thru this with her late DH not that long ago.

Hang in there, Granny. You did not do anything wrong. Living with and caring for a person with dementia is physically and mentally draining. As Microchick advised, talk to the nurse and his doctor about meds he can be given. Is there a dementia support group in your area? Maybe the social worker at the hospital can give you some numbers. I'm glad Robert is trying to help. We are here for you too.

 

[Cynthia12]

@Cynthia12 Im in a bad mood and Tom put me here. I have been fighting to keep him up since 3pm. I finally got a sandwich down him about 3:30 then did what I normally do and that's give him his shot and get his night meds ready for 5. Robert even promised him home baked cookies if he stayed up. He tried to take his meds at 3:30 and I had to tell him many times it was too early and he argued with me. He has never done that before. I thought it was settled but before I could even sit down he had half of them gone. I asked why, he said its time... Back and forth all over again and as Im telling him for the 10th time he looks at me and takes the rest of them. 5 mins pass and he is asking to go to bed. I said, You know what? I'm done arguing with you. I dumped his urinal and followed him to his room and helped him to bed while Robert was in his room telling me to not let him go. I told Robert I was done fussing with him over it. I know he will be back up before bed time.
What did I do wrong???

micro said it well..you did nothing wrong! When they get into that state of..not listening..they'll just do it. Let him. My health was also pretty bad at the time when Scott started insisting things his way. Remember, I had him on Hospice and they had medication ready for this time. Thing is, the meds mellow them out so they want to sleep more too. It's ok. Can you imagine his frustration as to why he can't do what he feels like doing? The arguing over it all only causes more fatigue..on the part of both of you.
I did start giving him his meds the last year. I had so many changed. He did notice at first. I made up believable stories that would get him to take them, and again explain in believable stories why some of his normal ones weren't given. They get so set in their ways with their medication! But I got him to start taking the new ones except one..I had to smash a pill and put it into his breakfast. He never knew. It was one to calm him. Worked wonders.
Robert needs to understand that this is actually normal behavior for his illness. That things will start changing for him, and the both of you. Sounds like he's trying to help, he just needs to understand that Tom will become more and more different as time goes by. You can start Hospice, or if you think you can get some meds from his nurse then it would be great. Morning meds to keep him less agitated, maybe for mid afternoon too, then his evening meds.
Bless your heart..s. It's very hard to see a loved one turn into someone they've never been. This could keep happening, or he could wake up back to himself. We just never know. Sadly Scott stayed a bit ornery the last 6 months. But, meds helped tremendously.
Talk to that nurse, even ask her about Hospice. Or you can call around your area. They will come out and talk with you for..free.

 

[Granny Hatchet]

Thanks everyone. This is the first time he has acted like this. Ever.. Im not keen on jumping straight to meds. I appreciate the heads up though. It could be UTI again or a number of different things that caused today to be.