GRAPHIC PICS of my day learning to caponize

[Sylviaanne]

The thread is what they use on the lower teste, however even w/ that tool the one cut caponizing is a skill that has alluded both of us to this point.

I had a tragic event at my place last week and lost all but 4 hens and 8 babies to a preditor attack while we were both gone for the day. (as in 24 hour day). mine were just at 6 months. These ones I did today (just 3 of my own and helped w/ poco's) 2 will be going to a fellow Okie byc'er as "pets" since they are offspring of my main roo Oreo, somewhat of a celebrity on the Okie thread. I am switching my flock entirely to NN (even before this event) so didn't need Oreo's offspring (he was an EE) I lost some very important birds to my breeding goals. I didn't have many eggs since my husband had gone on a family camping trip and took the eggs for everyone to eat. I put what I could salvage in the bator and have my fingers crossed, I will candle on the 6th.

What is NN? It's not on the list of abbreviations. Sorry to remind you of a bad memory. Sylvia

 

[Macboat]

What is NN? It's not on the list of abbreviations. Sorry to remind you of a bad memory. Sylvia

Must be naked neck.

 

[Kassaundra]

What is NN? It's not on the list of abbreviations. Sorry to remind you of a bad memory. Sylvia

Macboat was correct naked neck, sometimes called turkens.

 

[BCMaraniac]

Macboat was correct naked neck, sometimes called turkens.

I accidentally ended up with one, Kassaundra. in some hatching eggs I bought. It is black, so when it bends over to eat and extends its neck, it looks like Moe, one of the Three Stooges, because it looks like it has a bowl haircut from the back.

 

[Macboat]

Questions for those who has caponized a rooster, will they stop crowing? If they do, how hong does it take for them to stop crowing?

Since I didn't get any answers yet, I am going to document it here. I got this 6 month old Bresse rooster from CL 2 days ago, he crowed a lot and was really loud, crowed even inside the dark cardbox! He woke me up really early yesterday so I was like, why not! You asked for it..

The operation wasn't easy because he is the first grown up rooster I was operating on and I only have a set of tools for small roos. The testes were huge and I can barely get the left teste out of the opening. By the way I started this a month ago so far have done 4 chickens including this one, haven't lost one yet. Knock on the woods.....

This morning is day one, he crowed 3 times, probably because of the wound, they were short and quick, and not nearly as loud. I think it is acceptable to leave him in the yard for now. Let's see when will he eventually stop crowing at all.

 

[LindaB220]

Since I didn't get any answers yet, I am going to document it here. I got this 6 month old Bresse rooster from CL 2 days ago, he crowed a lot and was really loud, crowed even inside the dark cardbox! He woke me up really early yesterday so I was like, why not! You asked for it..

The operation wasn't easy because he is the first grown up rooster I was operating on and I only have a set of tools for small roos. The testes were huge and I can barely get the left teste out of the opening. By the way I started this a month ago so far have done 4 chickens including this one, haven't lost one yet. Knock on the woods.....

This morning is day one, he crowed 3 times, probably because of the wound, they were short and quick, and not nearly as loud. I think it is acceptable to leave him in the yard for now. Let's see when will he eventually stop crowing at all.

Please keep us in the loop on this.. I'd love to find out if it works. I know that new crowers quieten down but who knows maybe he will completely stop. Interesting topic.

 

[BCMaraniac]

Since I didn't get any answers yet, I am going to document it here. I got this 6 month old Bresse rooster from CL 2 days ago, he crowed a lot and was really loud, crowed even inside the dark cardbox! He woke me up really early yesterday so I was like, why not! You asked for it..

The operation wasn't easy because he is the first grown up rooster I was operating on and I only have a set of tools for small roos. The testes were huge and I can barely get the left teste out of the opening. By the way I started this a month ago so far have done 4 chickens including this one, haven't lost one yet. Knock on the woods.....

This morning is day one, he crowed 3 times, probably because of the wound, they were short and quick, and not nearly as loud. I think it is acceptable to leave him in the yard for now. Let's see when will he eventually stop crowing at all.

Congratulations! I have read that it may diminish or even stop, and that if it doesn't stop entirely, it's not the same kind of crow and not as loud and obnoxious. I didn't reply yesterday to your original post because I didn't have personal experience with roosters. I hope it works for you. You will have to keep us posted. I have the Chinese set for roosters, but I don't know if I have the nerve....LOL. I've got a Bresse rooster about a year old that I am planning to dispatch after breeding season is over, so I may give that a try...worst thing will be that Ikill him, which was going to be the outcome anyway....

Thanks for posting your results. Please keep us updated about his crowing.

 

[Kassaundra]

Since I didn't get any answers yet, I am going to document it here. I got this 6 month old Bresse rooster from CL 2 days ago, he crowed a lot and was really loud, crowed even inside the dark cardbox! He woke me up really early yesterday so I was like, why not! You asked for it..

The operation wasn't easy because he is the first grown up rooster I was operating on and I only have a set of tools for small roos. The testes were huge and I can barely get the left teste out of the opening. By the way I started this a month ago so far have done 4 chickens including this one, haven't lost one yet. Knock on the woods.....

This morning is day one, he crowed 3 times, probably because of the wound, they were short and quick, and not nearly as loud. I think it is acceptable to leave him in the yard for now. Let's see when will he eventually stop crowing at all.

I didn't respond b/c I have never done an adult already crowing roo, but Poco has and she has said they either stop altogether (after a week or so) or crow rarely much shorter, much quieter.

 

[Macboat]

Please keep us in the loop on this.. I'd love to find out if it works. I know that new crowers quieten down but who knows maybe he will completely stop. Interesting topic.

Sure, will do. This one already quieten down... maybe he will forget how to crow when his wound healed?

Congratulations! I have read that it may diminish or even stop, and that if it doesn't stop entirely, it's not the same kind of crow and not as loud and obnoxious. I didn't reply yesterday to your original post because I didn't have personal experience with roosters. I hope it works for you. You will have to keep us posted. I have the Chinese set for roosters, but I don't know if I have the nerve....LOL. I've got a Bresse rooster about a year old that I am planning to dispatch after breeding season is over, so I may give that a try...worst thing will be that Ikill him, which was going to be the outcome anyway....

Thanks for posting your results. Please keep us updated about his crowing.

Thank you! Keep my finger crossed now. It is a bit nerve racking because roosters bleeding more and their teste are much larger and harder to handle.

I didn't respond b/c I have never done an adult already crowing roo, but Poco has and she has said they either stop altogether (after a week or so) or crow rarely much shorter, much quieter.

I figured not too many people have experiences. Poco IMed me said pretty much same thing you summarized.

 

[Macboat]

I would love to see the video.....let use know if you get it.

I have spoken to a caponizer in China, and they poulardize at 4 weeks. He said bleeding from the ovary is the biggest issue at that age because it is removed. All of the literature that I have read from the US discusses performing the procedure at 12-14 weeks so that a piece of oviduct including the portion next to the ovary is removed rather than the ovary itself. The literature states that removing that portion of the oviduct will prevent the ovary from developing. I am planning to dispatch a couple of pullets at that age to open and learn the anatomy, then see if I can successfully poulardize that way. As you know, it is supposed to be easier than caponizing once you learn how. I have 10 week old pullets so hopefully I will be doing it in a couple of weeks.

First time heard this and did a search, wow, they do exist! Amazing.

One thing I don't understand is "A poulard may develop bright colored feathers, long tail, big plumage as a rooster, and they will CROW!"
How come a capon will not crow and a poulard will crow? And a lot of us caponize roosters so that we can keep them in back yard but you poulardize a hen so she can sing....?