GRAPHIC PICS of my day learning to caponize

[Kassaundra]

You can email him but yes, it does take him forever to answer.

I tried that too, a couple of times

 

[galanie]

I got an answer from him finally and he told me of another email to use, which I didn't at the time and now I can't find that message and email to save myself. This was some time back.

It could be that I PM'd him here rather than a straight email, as he does come here still but only once in a while. But really I think I emailed him.

 

[Kassaundra]

I got an answer from him finally and he told me of another email to use, which I didn't at the time and now I can't find that message and email to save myself.

This was some time back.
It could be that I PM'd him here rather than a straight email, as he does come here still but only once in a while. But really I think I emailed him.

I know I pm'd first then tried one of the emails on the site. The pm never did get an answer but I figured he wasn't on byc much so that is when I sent the emails the first one he responded to and apologized for being so long to respond he said it got sent to a spam file, but never did get any specific info about price or ordering. So if anyone has successfully ordered that kit please share your info of how it worked and how you ordered it.

 

[galanie]

I hope someone responds because I'd love to have those tools too. Or maybe I can find someone that speaks Chinese to help. I did the conversion and the price is only around $21 American.

 

[mychickenbrood]

Wow! Looks like a whole surgical "suite." LOL. Glad it went well. You are brave.

 

[coyotesmommy]

Thank you Kassaundra for such a detailed and knowledgeable post. I very much want to try this so that I don't have to get rid of my favorite rooster. This is exactly what I needed and thank YOU Naillikwj82 for pointing this out to me. I will study this post and what you sent me Jeff so that I will be well prepared.

 

[franklinstreetwest]

Thank You for taking the time to record this procedure! I have a roo that I wanted this done to, and I called every vets three states away that were listed as bird specialists. To no avail! With the interest in poultry as pets for the urban family, you would think that veterinary clinics would get on board. CLEARLY if savvy people can do this with relative safety in their own homes, this is a procedure that could be done in a clinic. If it makes them more comfortable, they could make patients sign an "informed consent & liability waver". Why can't our local vets get with this program??!! I don't know how many times I've called around to vets for help, and the lack of respect I get over the phone makes me feel like I would be wasting my money taking them to a person who clearly doesn't respect the feelings I have for my pet.

I weigh the options like this....unexpected roo that I have developed an attachment to: WHEN he matures, 100% certain he has to go (likely to his death) vs. 50% chance he will live, be more docile and possibly not crow.

I haven't stuck my toes in the waters of butchering my own meat birds...I am getting there... I can see this as a great way of dealing with fancy/show birds that aren't suited to breeding and show. It would make them of use for the stew-pot or as pets.


I do have one question... How was the second testicle dealt with??

 

[franklinstreetwest]

Okay, another question also... how was the straw modified? What is it modified to do?

I can see it there, but it isn't clear to me quite how it is employed.

 

[Kassaundra]

Thank You for taking the time to record this procedure! I have a roo that I wanted this done to, and I called every vets three states away that were listed as bird specialists. To no avail! With the interest in poultry as pets for the urban family, you would think that veterinary clinics would get on board. CLEARLY if savvy people can do this with relative safety in their own homes, this is a procedure that could be done in a clinic. If it makes them more comfortable, they could make patients sign an "informed consent & liability waver". Why can't our local vets get with this program??!! I don't know how many times I've called around to vets for help, and the lack of respect I get over the phone makes me feel like I would be wasting my money taking them to a person who clearly doesn't respect the feelings I have for my pet.

I weigh the options like this....unexpected roo that I have developed an attachment to: WHEN he matures, 100% certain he has to go (likely to his death) vs. 50% chance he will live, be more docile and possibly not crow.

I haven't stuck my toes in the waters of butchering my own meat birds...I am getting there... I can see this as a great way of dealing with fancy/show birds that aren't suited to breeding and show. It would make them of use for the stew-pot or as pets.


I do have one question... How was the second testicle dealt with??

She doesn't normally cauterize the testes out like she did on the first one, it was just better connected then normal so she used the cauterizing tip on it. The second teste fortunately came out much easier it was removed easily by just the wire/straw intrument. She also does pottery and is making a more permanent tool to replace the straw. If it had been more troublesome to remove she had these forceps that had a hollow center and edged w/ small teeth, I think she would have used those, but those are last resort as it is much easier to grab something you don't want to (blood vessel, intestine etc..)

Most people who actually do this have a much higher survival rate then 50%, and just about the only way the roo will crow is if you have a slip. (leave a small part of the teste in the bird) this is a much high complication then death, by those skilled at it.

Your experience w/ the vet is echoed by many. Most vets even those who are avian don't want to caponize even for a pet.

 

[Kassaundra]

A thin wire is looped (doubled) and threaded through the length of the straw, w/ wire long enough to use as a handle coming out the top end. The center of the straw lenghtwise has a couple of staples up the center allowing for each side of the straw to have a lenght of wire (and for the wire to move freely through the straw). The wire loop is made big enough to loop the teste, then tightened up to the edge of the straw and the straw is twisted w/ the teste held by it, this usually will free the teste from the connective tissue.