Great Depression of 2016

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You don't have to worry about that, until you need it like reading the obamacare legislation before congress passes it. Death panels no worries the people in charge of us idiots says it's not part of the legislation they never read and voted for (BTW it may not be there, there may be non-life extending panels, but not death panels, the difference you may ask? the name only).



Did you miss the part about vets dying waiting for healthcare ?


Nope, just pointing out for those whom believe obamacare is great stuff and death panels will never happen are crazy because the VA did it to vets, (government healthcare for vets) why wouldn't it happen to those on obamacare (government health care for non-vets).

And because it's happening in the V.A. don't you think we should change the V.A. ?
 
Dennis I want to change the VA also to get rid of obamacare, let's make the VA something like medicare replacement insurance, a true insurance, but have it sold to vets at a reduced (or free) cost.
 
What is your alternative to Obamacare? Any ideas? Personally, I think the primary reason for the opposition to Obamacare is due to the fact that people just don't like Obama.
 
What is your alternative to Obamacare? Any ideas? Personally, I think the primary reason for the opposition to Obamacare is due to the fact that people just don't like Obama.

I think that Obamacare was a compromise when they couldn't get the single payer passed. The truth is that most of the Democrats don't like it. It's a system that is setup to fail, and then we would have to go with the single payer.
There was things that could have been done to improve the old system, but that wouldn't have fit the plan.

I was against Obamacare before I was against President Obama.
 
What is your alternative to Obamacare? Any ideas? Personally, I think the primary reason for the opposition to Obamacare is due to the fact that people just don't like Obama.

I agree with you.
I think that Obamacare was a compromise when they couldn't get the single payer passed. The truth is that most of the Democrats don't like it. It's a system that is setup to fail, and then we would have to go with the single payer.
There was things that could have been done to improve the old system, but that wouldn't have fit the plan.

I was against Obamacare before I was against President Obama.
 
Yep, people hate obamacare cause it is bad... Even the supporters have turned now. They lost their coverage an had to pay more for a new one. They lost their doctors cause they dont take it or just quit being doctors. An as far as I can tell the only people that are now covered that were not before are being covered by changes at the state level on the states dime.
 
I'm real unsympathetic on this whole health care debacle. There was an affordable comprehensive national health care proposal drafted waaay back during the Clinton administration, and Congress would have none of it. Now we are stuck with something far more expensive and not as good.
 
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