Great Depression of 2016

[MrsBrooke]

Been following your listed advice. No water purifier yet, but we have adequate camping equipment, propane for cooking, 60 pounds of silver in small denominations, and lots of lead and brass. Also the devices for expelling them at great velocities. Here in California, they have a proposition on the ballot to require background checks on ammo, no internet sales...reloading supplies will be next...reminds me, gotta order some more of that old brass and lead...8K rounds ain't enough. If you want to PM me, I can refer some internet sources that have quality stuff at reasonable prices.

I appreciate that! My MrB has considered getting into reloading, but we've preferred the ready-made packaging so far. XD And remember... You can live 4 minutes without oxygen, 72 hours without water, and 3 weeks without food. Priorities!!

I hope you all get a chance to eat that stored food. If it goes nuclear, it will all be dust.

I'd really rather enjoy The Cheescake Factory for the next 50 years, but I'm not sure that's in the cards anymore.

But it will be "tasty" dust....I remember the old adage..."In the event of a nuclear war, the survivors will envy the dead." I am more concerned about local rabble in the event of an economic disaster rather than the potential of a nuclear attack from the Soviets...but if the heathens in the mid-east get a viable nuclear weapon and threaten, or actually use it against Israel...all bets are off. If the targeted areas post initial attack are major cities, we in the boonies may not survive, but we have a better chance than those at ground zero...when I was in 5th grade, I read the book "Alas, Babylon" about a small town's post nuclear survival and the aftermath...it should be required reading today. Not 50 shades of grey or whatever the latest craze of literature is. Even books of fiction can have a kernel of truth regarding the world's predicament. And lessons to be learned. On the Beach was among the most depressing post nuclear films of the 1950's....but it reflected the end of everything and how people coped with their eventual extinction due to radioactive fallout.

I read that, too, in high school a little over a decade ago (am I allowed to start "dating myself"??) The takeaway I got was: "Don't look at the flash when it goes off, or you'll be blind for a while."

My money is on Russia popping an EMP in our atmosphere and letting us starve and kill each other. Then they'll just roll up and take over the remaining infrastructure... No need to be so wasteful.

Plus, we've got all the fallout we need already, though! Anyone checked Fukushima lately?

Rev. 8:11 - "...the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

MrsB

 

[Oliver Douglas]

I appreciate that! My MrB has considered getting into reloading, but we've preferred the ready-made packaging so far. XD And remember... You can live 4 minutes without oxygen, 72 hours without water, and 3 weeks without food. Priorities!!


I'd really rather enjoy The Cheescake Factory for the next 50 years, but I'm not sure that's in the cards anymore.


I read that, too, in high school a little over a decade ago (am I allowed to start "dating myself"??) The takeaway I got was: "Don't look at the flash when it goes off, or you'll be blind for a while."

My money is on Russia popping an EMP in our atmosphere and letting us starve and kill each other. Then they'll just roll up and take over the remaining infrastructure... No need to be so wasteful.

Plus, we've got all the fallout we need already, though! Anyone checked Fukushima lately?

Rev. 8:11 - "...the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

MrsB

Got the water covered, should have mentioned that...not purification yet, but plenty on hand, stream close by for bathroom flushing. If an EMP should screw up the grid, all the takers will be looking to score their vittles outside of their areas. Forget fast food. All cell phones will be down, no mass communications with their buds to stage this or that...they will be on their own...I give them a week before it's over for them. EBT cards out of service, ATM will be out. Stores won't be able to do business because the registers don't work. Looting won't help, can't eat a big screen television . Liquor thefts will last for a while...that's about it. No mass media to plead the case for the have-nots in society..

 

[MrsBrooke]

Got the water covered, should have mentioned that...not purification yet, but plenty on hand, stream close by for bathroom flushing. If an EMP should screw up the grid, all the takers will be looking to score their vittles outside of their areas. Forget fast food. All cell phones will be down, no mass communications with their buds to stage this or that...they will be on their own...I give them a week before it's over for them. EBT cards out of service, ATM will be out. Stores won't be able to do business because the registers don't work. Looting won't help, can't eat a big screen television . Liquor thefts will last for a while...that's about it. No mass media to plead the case for the have-nots in society..

Lucky you with a stream!! We've got a creek, but I'd want to boil that nastiness TWICE. Is dying of dehydration better than cholera?

Big cities will be no-go zones... and those on the outskirts will be next on the list as the city gangs have to move farther out and start looting the suburbs. I don't want to be in the way of that.

Yikes. If you can, get out now, friends!!

MrsB

 

[Oliver Douglas]

The water from our stream will not ever be drunk, we have enough on hand in the garage and shed to cover our needs. Lucky for us there is no mass transit (even if it still worked after the pulse) for the losers to get where we live. Only four roads into town. Easily guarded, and the average age where we live is mid 50-ish so we are pretty much able to take care of ourselves, lot's of hunters with big, nasty bolt-action deer rifles scoped out to 300 plus yards. Of course, if that situation gets really bad, my chickens will probably give me the evil eye...nope, not me tonight! Pick McNugget, she is fatter! My personal toy is a 6.5 Swedish Mauser that's good with iron sights out to 150 Yards...plus several brethren yet to be mentioned. A good .22 will score a squirrel or a rabbit. Deer are plentiful up here, but would rather someone else deal with the skinning of those guys.

 

[rufus]

The Hiroshima bomb was a fire cracker in comparison to the weapons since developed. About a year or two ago, we had a discussion with Dennis about these weapons. He didn't understand the difference between kiloton and megaton.

They are all bad news, but megaton is vastly worse.

I am afraid the cooler heads in the military have been retired out of service, and that the current leaders are just lackies of the leftist politicians. A nuclear war would be bad for everyone.

If you look at the map, the Middle East is a theater of war way too small for these weapons. One laid on Tel Aviv would take out Rhamalla, Jerusalem, and Gaza. Amman is only about 64 miles away. Damascus and Beirut would suffer also.

So, for whom is that Iranian nuclear weapon being built? I am afraid it is for you and me.

 

[rufus]

On the bright side, an EMP will erase all of our charge card balances.

 

[Oliver Douglas]

Check out the TSAR Bomba, largest H-bomb ever detonated. Uses the Fat man and Little Boy technologies as trigger mechanisms....fission promoting fusion. Basically a solar furnace, converting hydrogen to helium with tremendous energy output. 60-70 MEGATONS....Hiroshima was 20 KILO tons and an air burst devastated the city. TSAR Bomba was 3000 times as powerful.

 

[Athaid]

If it came to nuclear war I would rather be flattened than to live through it.

 

[rufus]

If it came to nuclear war I would rather be flattened than to live through it.

You probably would not have the option.

Is it worth going to war to be involved in the Middle East? I don't think so. We have only two allies there, Jordan and Israel. The rest are too involved in killing each other.

We need to shut down the Food for Peace program. It gives US grown grain to mostly Muslim countries. They then sell that grain on their market and use the funds gained to support their government. We have no moral or legal obligation to feed people that hate us. Those folks need to grow more wheat and less opium poppies.

They may change their opinion of us when their belly begins to rub their backbone.

 

[MrsBrooke]

Those folks need to grow more wheat and less opium poppies.

But if they did that, the DEA and the CIA would go out of business. And what would the troops guard??



MrsB