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"Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace" ...no such misconceptions here.
"Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace" ...no such misconceptions here.
Great Pyr and my flock ??'s
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"Championships" mean nothing at all when you're wanting a "working" dog.
Show dogs are bred for appearance, not perfomance
Mainly it means you'll pay more for an animal that may or may not protect your birds.
She's right about the 10 acres though, and not letting them roam
Absolutely not true!
Yes, SOME breeders of LGD breeds do breed only for show, and the Great Pyrenees is the one LGD breed I can think of that has really started to be split into show vs. working lines. I have 2 Anatolian Shepherds, both are from a "show" breeder who is very concerned with preserving the correct working temperament of the ASD in addition to producing healthy dogs that meet the standard. She is very well known in the breed, and has done a great deal with importing foundation stock, starting the ASDCA, getting the breed AKC recognition, etc. She places dogs in working, show, and companion homes based on their temperament and what the puppy buyer is looking for. Both of my girls are successful working guardians and successful in the show ring, additionally, because they come from a long line of fully health tested lineage, I have much less worry about them developing hip dysplasia or any other health issues common to the breed.
My beef about breeders of strictly working dogs is that many of them don't health test and in large/giant breeds like the LGD breeds that is a recipe for disaster and huge vet bills down the road. My advice would be to either find a working breeder that health tests and can prove it (show you the OFA/PennHip certificates) or a show/working breeder that can also show you proof of health testing. You may pay a bit more for the pup, but in the long run, you're saving yourself a lot of vet bills and stress. A good breeder will be able to tell you what you can expect of your pup based on their parents and assessment of the pup's temperament.
With all that being said, poultry are probably the hardest livestock to train any LGD breed to bond to and guard because everything about them screams PREY! It is best to get a pup that has been started on poultry already and/or from a line of dogs that successfully work poultry. and it will take some supervision and training on your part. My girls were started on poultry as young adults and took to it pretty quickly, the only thing they really had to be taught was the birds were fragile and not play things. They have never intentionally tried to kill a bird and now are out 24/7 with them. From everything I've been told, the best LGD breed for guarding poultry is the Akbash, they have more of an instinct to protect the birds and are easier to train to bond with them. I can't speak from experience on that, but I've heard it from several poultry breeders that use LGD and from some Turkish friends I've made through the ASD community.
I am currently looking for a third ASD to bring in strictly as a working dog, but it will come from either the breeder of my current 2 girls or another breeder she has recommended that breeds for both show and working traits. There are several litters of Anatolian puppies on the ground right now and more on the way from reputable breeders of show and working dogs. If you're interested, you can contact me by PM for more info or go to the ASDCA website.
Sakarya's Light Up The Skyes "Riley", a show AND working dog (professionally handled by Brenda Lee Combs)
Sakarya's Get A Life "Sinsi", show AND working dog (you can see some of her chickens in the background and Riley is the lump behind her)
"Championships" mean nothing at all when you're wanting a "working" dog.
Show dogs are bred for appearance, not perfomance
Mainly it means you'll pay more for an animal that may or may not protect your birds.
She's right about the 10 acres though, and not letting them roam
Absolutely not true!
My beef about breeders of strictly working dogs is that many of them don't health test and in large/giant breeds like the LGD breeds that is a recipe for disaster and huge vet bills down the road. My advice would be to either find a working breeder that health tests and can prove it (show you the OFA/PennHip certificates) or a show/working breeder that can also show you proof of health testing. You may pay a bit more for the pup, but in the long run, you're saving yourself a lot of vet bills and stress. A good breeder will be able to tell you what you can expect of your pup based on their parents and assessment of the pup's temperament.
With all that being said, poultry are probably the hardest livestock to train any LGD breed to bond to and guard because everything about them screams PREY! It is best to get a pup that has been started on poultry already and/or from a line of dogs that successfully work poultry. and it will take some supervision and training on your part. My girls were started on poultry as young adults and took to it pretty quickly, the only thing they really had to be taught was the birds were fragile and not play things. They have never intentionally tried to kill a bird and now are out 24/7 with them. From everything I've been told, the best LGD breed for guarding poultry is the Akbash, they have more of an instinct to protect the birds and are easier to train to bond with them. I can't speak from experience on that, but I've heard it from several poultry breeders that use LGD and from some Turkish friends I've made through the ASD community.
I am currently looking for a third ASD to bring in strictly as a working dog, but it will come from either the breeder of my current 2 girls or another breeder she has recommended that breeds for both show and working traits. There are several litters of Anatolian puppies on the ground right now and more on the way from reputable breeders of show and working dogs. If you're interested, you can contact me by PM for more info or go to the ASDCA website.
Sakarya's Light Up The Skyes "Riley", a show AND working dog (professionally handled by Brenda Lee Combs)
Sakarya's Get A Life "Sinsi", show AND working dog (you can see some of her chickens in the background and Riley is the lump behind her)
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Quote:
"Championships" mean nothing at all when you're wanting a "working" dog.
Show dogs are bred for appearance, not perfomance
Mainly it means you'll pay more for an animal that may or may not protect your birds.
She's right about the 10 acres though, and not letting them roam
Absolutely not true!
Yes, SOME breeders of LGD breeds do breed only for show, and the Great Pyrenees is the one LGD breed I can think of that has really started to be split into show vs. working lines. I have 2 Anatolian Shepherds, both are from a "show" breeder who is very concerned with preserving the correct working temperament of the ASD in addition to producing healthy dogs that meet the standard. She is very well known in the breed, and has done a great deal with importing foundation stock, starting the ASDCA, getting the breed AKC recognition, etc. She places dogs in working, show, and companion homes based on their temperament and what the puppy buyer is looking for. Both of my girls are successful working guardians and successful in the show ring, additionally, because they come from a long line of fully health tested lineage, I have much less worry about them developing hip dysplasia or any other health issues common to the breed.
My beef about breeders of strictly working dogs is that many of them don't health test and in large/giant breeds like the LGD breeds that is a recipe for disaster and huge vet bills down the road. My advice would be to either find a working breeder that health tests and can prove it (show you the OFA/PennHip certificates) or a show/working breeder that can also show you proof of health testing. You may pay a bit more for the pup, but in the long run, you're saving yourself a lot of vet bills and stress. A good breeder will be able to tell you what you can expect of your pup based on their parents and assessment of the pup's temperament.
With all that being said, poultry are probably the hardest livestock to train any LGD breed to bond to and guard because everything about them screams PREY! It is best to get a pup that has been started on poultry already and/or from a line of dogs that successfully work poultry. and it will take some supervision and training on your part. My girls were started on poultry as young adults and took to it pretty quickly, the only thing they really had to be taught was the birds were fragile and not play things. They have never intentionally tried to kill a bird and now are out 24/7 with them. From everything I've been told, the best LGD breed for guarding poultry is the Akbash, they have more of an instinct to protect the birds and are easier to train to bond with them. I can't speak from experience on that, but I've heard it from several poultry breeders that use LGD and from some Turkish friends I've made through the ASD community.
I am currently looking for a third ASD to bring in strictly as a working dog, but it will come from either the breeder of my current 2 girls or another breeder she has recommended that breeds for both show and working traits. There are several litters of Anatolian puppies on the ground right now and more on the way from reputable breeders of show and working dogs. If you're interested, you can contact me by PM for more info or go to the ASDCA website.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/ChSkyeTerrier/Anatolians/rileyfirstpt.jpg
Sakarya's Light Up The Skyes "Riley", a show AND working dog (professionally handled by Brenda Lee Combs)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...0245464736532_560731531_8738094_1240432_n.jpg
Sakarya's Get A Life "Sinsi", show AND working dog (you can see some of her chickens in the background and Riley is the lump behind her)
Amen Sister (female I am assuming)
Yes this is what I am looking for in a breeder. I live in farm country and the breeder I have bonded to works her dogs and shows them. One of my first questions was if she had her dogs health certified. Especially in the hip areas. Yes was her answer and she gave me the website of the OFCA? is that right, anyway the health certification site and the names of her dogs and told me to go look up all the certifications.
All the talk of how LGD do not listen and can not learn is contradictory to what my breeder has accomplished. She took 17 dogs to championship in one year. They listen in the ring so saying they cannot learn is puzzling to me. It takes the right person. I do not need my dogs to obey commands to please me but knowing the breeder does this and it is in the line I am looking at makes me more comfortable.
There is one thing I need to get straight about this purchase of these dogs before I decide on this breeder. I want to be able to breed them to get additional LGD for my homestead. She has a male she would like to breed the female I am looking at to. I think if I am purchasing this dog for a large sum of money I should only have to give her one pup (the pick of the litter) What is your opinon on this. I believe we will have co-ownership. If this is the case should I be paying a fee for the dog?
"Championships" mean nothing at all when you're wanting a "working" dog.
Show dogs are bred for appearance, not perfomance
Mainly it means you'll pay more for an animal that may or may not protect your birds.
She's right about the 10 acres though, and not letting them roam
Absolutely not true!
My beef about breeders of strictly working dogs is that many of them don't health test and in large/giant breeds like the LGD breeds that is a recipe for disaster and huge vet bills down the road. My advice would be to either find a working breeder that health tests and can prove it (show you the OFA/PennHip certificates) or a show/working breeder that can also show you proof of health testing. You may pay a bit more for the pup, but in the long run, you're saving yourself a lot of vet bills and stress. A good breeder will be able to tell you what you can expect of your pup based on their parents and assessment of the pup's temperament.
With all that being said, poultry are probably the hardest livestock to train any LGD breed to bond to and guard because everything about them screams PREY! It is best to get a pup that has been started on poultry already and/or from a line of dogs that successfully work poultry. and it will take some supervision and training on your part. My girls were started on poultry as young adults and took to it pretty quickly, the only thing they really had to be taught was the birds were fragile and not play things. They have never intentionally tried to kill a bird and now are out 24/7 with them. From everything I've been told, the best LGD breed for guarding poultry is the Akbash, they have more of an instinct to protect the birds and are easier to train to bond with them. I can't speak from experience on that, but I've heard it from several poultry breeders that use LGD and from some Turkish friends I've made through the ASD community.
I am currently looking for a third ASD to bring in strictly as a working dog, but it will come from either the breeder of my current 2 girls or another breeder she has recommended that breeds for both show and working traits. There are several litters of Anatolian puppies on the ground right now and more on the way from reputable breeders of show and working dogs. If you're interested, you can contact me by PM for more info or go to the ASDCA website.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/ChSkyeTerrier/Anatolians/rileyfirstpt.jpg
Sakarya's Light Up The Skyes "Riley", a show AND working dog (professionally handled by Brenda Lee Combs)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...0245464736532_560731531_8738094_1240432_n.jpg
Sakarya's Get A Life "Sinsi", show AND working dog (you can see some of her chickens in the background and Riley is the lump behind her)
Amen Sister (female I am assuming)
All the talk of how LGD do not listen and can not learn is contradictory to what my breeder has accomplished. She took 17 dogs to championship in one year. They listen in the ring so saying they cannot learn is puzzling to me. It takes the right person. I do not need my dogs to obey commands to please me but knowing the breeder does this and it is in the line I am looking at makes me more comfortable.
There is one thing I need to get straight about this purchase of these dogs before I decide on this breeder. I want to be able to breed them to get additional LGD for my homestead. She has a male she would like to breed the female I am looking at to. I think if I am purchasing this dog for a large sum of money I should only have to give her one pup (the pick of the litter) What is your opinon on this. I believe we will have co-ownership. If this is the case should I be paying a fee for the dog?
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Absolutely not true!
Yes, SOME breeders of LGD breeds do breed only for show, and the Great Pyrenees is the one LGD breed I can think of that has really started to be split into show vs. working lines. I have 2 Anatolian Shepherds, both are from a "show" breeder who is very concerned with preserving the correct working temperament of the ASD in addition to producing healthy dogs that meet the standard. She is very well known in the breed, and has done a great deal with importing foundation stock, starting the ASDCA, getting the breed AKC recognition, etc. She places dogs in working, show, and companion homes based on their temperament and what the puppy buyer is looking for. Both of my girls are successful working guardians and successful in the show ring, additionally, because they come from a long line of fully health tested lineage, I have much less worry about them developing hip dysplasia or any other health issues common to the breed.
My beef about breeders of strictly working dogs is that many of them don't health test and in large/giant breeds like the LGD breeds that is a recipe for disaster and huge vet bills down the road. My advice would be to either find a working breeder that health tests and can prove it (show you the OFA/PennHip certificates) or a show/working breeder that can also show you proof of health testing. You may pay a bit more for the pup, but in the long run, you're saving yourself a lot of vet bills and stress. A good breeder will be able to tell you what you can expect of your pup based on their parents and assessment of the pup's temperament.
With all that being said, poultry are probably the hardest livestock to train any LGD breed to bond to and guard because everything about them screams PREY! It is best to get a pup that has been started on poultry already and/or from a line of dogs that successfully work poultry. and it will take some supervision and training on your part. My girls were started on poultry as young adults and took to it pretty quickly, the only thing they really had to be taught was the birds were fragile and not play things. They have never intentionally tried to kill a bird and now are out 24/7 with them. From everything I've been told, the best LGD breed for guarding poultry is the Akbash, they have more of an instinct to protect the birds and are easier to train to bond with them. I can't speak from experience on that, but I've heard it from several poultry breeders that use LGD and from some Turkish friends I've made through the ASD community.
I am currently looking for a third ASD to bring in strictly as a working dog, but it will come from either the breeder of my current 2 girls or another breeder she has recommended that breeds for both show and working traits. There are several litters of Anatolian puppies on the ground right now and more on the way from reputable breeders of show and working dogs. If you're interested, you can contact me by PM for more info or go to the ASDCA website.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/ChSkyeTerrier/Anatolians/rileyfirstpt.jpg
Sakarya's Light Up The Skyes "Riley", a show AND working dog (professionally handled by Brenda Lee Combs)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...0245464736532_560731531_8738094_1240432_n.jpg
Sakarya's Get A Life "Sinsi", show AND working dog (you can see some of her chickens in the background and Riley is the lump behind her)
Amen Sister (female I am assuming)
Yes this is what I am looking for in a breeder. I live in farm country and the breeder I have bonded to works her dogs and shows them. One of my first questions was if she had her dogs health certified. Especially in the hip areas. Yes was her answer and she gave me the website of the OFCA? is that right, anyway the health certification site and the names of her dogs and told me to go look up all the certifications.
All the talk of how LGD do not listen and can not learn is contradictory to what my breeder has accomplished. She took 17 dogs to championship in one year. They listen in the ring so saying they cannot learn is puzzling to me. It takes the right person. I do not need my dogs to obey commands to please me but knowing the breeder does this and it is in the line I am looking at makes me more comfortable.
There is one thing I need to get straight about this purchase of these dogs before I decide on this breeder. I want to be able to breed them to get additional LGD for my homestead. She has a male she would like to breed the female I am looking at to. I think if I am purchasing this dog for a large sum of money I should only have to give her one pup (the pick of the litter) What is your opinon on this. I believe we will have co-ownership. If this is the case should I be paying a fee for the dog?
She sounds like a very good breeder. The co-ownership thing scares me though. Co-owning a dog with someone you don't know can be dangerous. I have heard horror stories like you would not believe!! Ask to see the contract that you will be required to sign. That's the only way you will know if you will be permitted to breed your dog. If she co-owns, she can refuse to sign the litter registration if she chooses to. She will probably require that you only breed after you have OFA certified your dog and possibly will require that the dog at least have points towards championship. No problem with those stipulations. But as the co-owner, she also might have the right to decide what stud you use every time you want to breed. This is all just speculation though. But do NOT enter into a co-ownership situation without seeing the contract and getting someone else to look at it to make sure it's fair to you.
Now regarding this breeding she wants to do. I don't think it's fair for her to get pick puppy. Normally if you hire a stud, the stud owner does not get first pick. They might get 2nd pick but not first. But again....this whole co-ownership thing could come into play. Just be careful what you agree to without someone else looking at it.
Absolutely not true!
My beef about breeders of strictly working dogs is that many of them don't health test and in large/giant breeds like the LGD breeds that is a recipe for disaster and huge vet bills down the road. My advice would be to either find a working breeder that health tests and can prove it (show you the OFA/PennHip certificates) or a show/working breeder that can also show you proof of health testing. You may pay a bit more for the pup, but in the long run, you're saving yourself a lot of vet bills and stress. A good breeder will be able to tell you what you can expect of your pup based on their parents and assessment of the pup's temperament.
With all that being said, poultry are probably the hardest livestock to train any LGD breed to bond to and guard because everything about them screams PREY! It is best to get a pup that has been started on poultry already and/or from a line of dogs that successfully work poultry. and it will take some supervision and training on your part. My girls were started on poultry as young adults and took to it pretty quickly, the only thing they really had to be taught was the birds were fragile and not play things. They have never intentionally tried to kill a bird and now are out 24/7 with them. From everything I've been told, the best LGD breed for guarding poultry is the Akbash, they have more of an instinct to protect the birds and are easier to train to bond with them. I can't speak from experience on that, but I've heard it from several poultry breeders that use LGD and from some Turkish friends I've made through the ASD community.
I am currently looking for a third ASD to bring in strictly as a working dog, but it will come from either the breeder of my current 2 girls or another breeder she has recommended that breeds for both show and working traits. There are several litters of Anatolian puppies on the ground right now and more on the way from reputable breeders of show and working dogs. If you're interested, you can contact me by PM for more info or go to the ASDCA website.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/ChSkyeTerrier/Anatolians/rileyfirstpt.jpg
Sakarya's Light Up The Skyes "Riley", a show AND working dog (professionally handled by Brenda Lee Combs)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...0245464736532_560731531_8738094_1240432_n.jpg
Sakarya's Get A Life "Sinsi", show AND working dog (you can see some of her chickens in the background and Riley is the lump behind her)
Amen Sister (female I am assuming)
All the talk of how LGD do not listen and can not learn is contradictory to what my breeder has accomplished. She took 17 dogs to championship in one year. They listen in the ring so saying they cannot learn is puzzling to me. It takes the right person. I do not need my dogs to obey commands to please me but knowing the breeder does this and it is in the line I am looking at makes me more comfortable.
There is one thing I need to get straight about this purchase of these dogs before I decide on this breeder. I want to be able to breed them to get additional LGD for my homestead. She has a male she would like to breed the female I am looking at to. I think if I am purchasing this dog for a large sum of money I should only have to give her one pup (the pick of the litter) What is your opinon on this. I believe we will have co-ownership. If this is the case should I be paying a fee for the dog?
She sounds like a very good breeder. The co-ownership thing scares me though. Co-owning a dog with someone you don't know can be dangerous. I have heard horror stories like you would not believe!! Ask to see the contract that you will be required to sign. That's the only way you will know if you will be permitted to breed your dog. If she co-owns, she can refuse to sign the litter registration if she chooses to. She will probably require that you only breed after you have OFA certified your dog and possibly will require that the dog at least have points towards championship. No problem with those stipulations. But as the co-owner, she also might have the right to decide what stud you use every time you want to breed. This is all just speculation though. But do NOT enter into a co-ownership situation without seeing the contract and getting someone else to look at it to make sure it's fair to you.
Now regarding this breeding she wants to do. I don't think it's fair for her to get pick puppy. Normally if you hire a stud, the stud owner does not get first pick. They might get 2nd pick but not first. But again....this whole co-ownership thing could come into play. Just be careful what you agree to without someone else looking at it.
You might have said it earlier, but does this breeder have her dogs with livestock? The reason I am asking is pyrs have been bred for a long time to be show dogs. Sometimes the show lines loose working ability and often their coats are too much to maintain in pasture conditions. It's more unusual to find show pyrs that actually work than it is to find Anatolians that also work. Anatolians have not been bred for show for that long and their coats are much easier to maintain. They are kind of "wash and go" sort of dogs when it comes to the show ring.
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carolinagirl, thanks for the response. Yes this is the only thing I am worried about with this breeder. I want these dogs but not under those requirements. I feel like I am paying big money for the dogs and I should get full ownership and breeding rights. This may end up ruining this deal.
I don't have a strong desire to show but I am interested in it. The breeder talked of sharing expenses and going on trips and teaching me all the ropes. That is pretty valuable to have that kind of one on one help but I don't have the time to do a bunch of showing. I have always been interesed in dog breeds and the wonderful things breeders accomplish. However I want to be able to manage my own dog, who it breeds with and when I get puppies and not to be greedy but any proceeds that come from them. I am managing a homestead here and there is fencing and lots of expense related to animals. I am not willing to let all the income generated slip through my fingers when I have expenses involved.
Geez I just want a good LGD to guard my animals. It seems that if I want health certifications I have to go through a respectable breeder and in doing that they control my animal.
I don't have a strong desire to show but I am interested in it. The breeder talked of sharing expenses and going on trips and teaching me all the ropes. That is pretty valuable to have that kind of one on one help but I don't have the time to do a bunch of showing. I have always been interesed in dog breeds and the wonderful things breeders accomplish. However I want to be able to manage my own dog, who it breeds with and when I get puppies and not to be greedy but any proceeds that come from them. I am managing a homestead here and there is fencing and lots of expense related to animals. I am not willing to let all the income generated slip through my fingers when I have expenses involved.
Geez I just want a good LGD to guard my animals. It seems that if I want health certifications I have to go through a respectable breeder and in doing that they control my animal.
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That is a good point. We just got a pup from a working ranch... someone on here. and I have already had him in the chicken pens... I have him on a leash so I can control him but he goes with me in the morning and evening to do chores. Most of the time he just sits or lays and watches but every so often he'll decide he wants to play (he is just over 8 wks old) and I have to intervene... he is not allowed to bark at or jump towards them. He hasn't met the turkeys yet because they will go after the puppy and peck him silly (19 turkeys... one puppy
)
I have had many dogs over my life time...everything from beagles to goldens, great danes, rotties and a slew of mutts from shelters... training is the most essential ingredient to a well behaved dog... yeah... genetics can be a positive or a negative depending on what they were bred for....but in all my experiences nothing beats taking the time to train your dog well... it isn't a static thing either... it's just like kids... it is a day in and a day out process... just my $.02
Besides look at that face
That is a good point. We just got a pup from a working ranch... someone on here. and I have already had him in the chicken pens... I have him on a leash so I can control him but he goes with me in the morning and evening to do chores. Most of the time he just sits or lays and watches but every so often he'll decide he wants to play (he is just over 8 wks old) and I have to intervene... he is not allowed to bark at or jump towards them. He hasn't met the turkeys yet because they will go after the puppy and peck him silly (19 turkeys... one puppy
I have had many dogs over my life time...everything from beagles to goldens, great danes, rotties and a slew of mutts from shelters... training is the most essential ingredient to a well behaved dog... yeah... genetics can be a positive or a negative depending on what they were bred for....but in all my experiences nothing beats taking the time to train your dog well... it isn't a static thing either... it's just like kids... it is a day in and a day out process... just my $.02
Besides look at that face
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Yes she said she does have them guard. Also she was working with a girl who used her animal on a farm, a co owner type of deal and the dog championed and then went right back home and started guarding. I am going to look into Anatolians, it is not going to hurt anything and if I don't end up getting what I want out of this breeder I may need to look elsewhere. I have not found another breeder that meets my criteria yet. I am planning a trip next week to see the dogs and iron out details for the Great Pyrs.
eta: oh I was going to mention that the lady she co owned with died recently of cancer. I do trust this breeder but I wonder if she is trying to find someone to replace her friend with. She seems so lonely and wants so bad to get back to breeding and showing. The breeder is in her 60's.
Yes she said she does have them guard. Also she was working with a girl who used her animal on a farm, a co owner type of deal and the dog championed and then went right back home and started guarding. I am going to look into Anatolians, it is not going to hurt anything and if I don't end up getting what I want out of this breeder I may need to look elsewhere. I have not found another breeder that meets my criteria yet. I am planning a trip next week to see the dogs and iron out details for the Great Pyrs.
eta: oh I was going to mention that the lady she co owned with died recently of cancer. I do trust this breeder but I wonder if she is trying to find someone to replace her friend with. She seems so lonely and wants so bad to get back to breeding and showing. The breeder is in her 60's.
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That is a good point. We just got a pup from a working ranch... someone on here. and I have already had him in the chicken pens... I have him on a leash so I can control him but he goes with me in the morning and evening to do chores. Most of the time he just sits or lays and watches but every so often he'll decide he wants to play (he is just over 8 wks old) and I have to intervene... he is not allowed to bark at or jump towards them. He hasn't met the turkeys yet because they will go after the puppy and peck him silly (19 turkeys... one puppy
)
I have had many dogs over my life time...everything from beagles to goldens, great danes, rotties and a slew of mutts from shelters... training is the most essential ingredient to a well behaved dog... yeah... genetics can be a positive or a negative depending on what they were bred for....but in all my experiences nothing beats taking the time to train your dog well... it isn't a static thing either... it's just like kids... it is a day in and a day out process... just my $.02
Besides look at that face
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25346_img_3506.jpg
What a beautiful pup!
That is a good point. We just got a pup from a working ranch... someone on here. and I have already had him in the chicken pens... I have him on a leash so I can control him but he goes with me in the morning and evening to do chores. Most of the time he just sits or lays and watches but every so often he'll decide he wants to play (he is just over 8 wks old) and I have to intervene... he is not allowed to bark at or jump towards them. He hasn't met the turkeys yet because they will go after the puppy and peck him silly (19 turkeys... one puppy
I have had many dogs over my life time...everything from beagles to goldens, great danes, rotties and a slew of mutts from shelters... training is the most essential ingredient to a well behaved dog... yeah... genetics can be a positive or a negative depending on what they were bred for....but in all my experiences nothing beats taking the time to train your dog well... it isn't a static thing either... it's just like kids... it is a day in and a day out process... just my $.02
Besides look at that face
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25346_img_3506.jpg
What a beautiful pup!
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