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Hi, everyone- I've been keeping up with all the posts but just haven't had a chance to write anything. I prefer to be on my computer for these replies since I can type more coherently that way. I sold my youngest keets last weekend and had to put Polly back out with the bigger kids. She started getting a tiny bit of wing feathers on her two week birthday (Tuesday) and then a day later she learned to hop out of the coop and follow the others around the yard. I had to check on her about 50 times a day because I was so worried about the turkeys or older guineas picking on her. Luckily she has been okay and she is growing enough now that I have to search the crowd a bit to pick her out. She's still smaller, but finally getting feathers, and she is just as fast as the rest of the bunch. She was feeling very left out when she couldn't leave the coop like the rest so I'm happy for her. The other keets are so beautiful. I've been trying to get pictures but they don't do them justice. They are lovely creams and silvers with white lacing on the feathers. I do worry that the light colors make them stand out to hawks, but really I had more lavenders than pearls survive from my original flock so maybe that is unfounded. As long as they don't start trying to sleep in the trees maybe I will be okay. I am afraid to mention it but I still have not had any predator action in two months. I'm happy but nervous about that. The guinea hen on the nest out front only leaves the nest for about 90 seconds twice a day. I have slowly been trying to go through the eggs and candle them when I catch her off of the nest. I have tossed about 13 bad ones and right now 19 are in the incubator and hopefully today I can get the rest of them to candle and then give her all the good ones back. I knew a good deal of them would be bad from being old and sitting in the sun. I've been doing a lot of work on the coops and will have updated pictures before long. It is actually starting to look pretty nice! I still can't convince DH to let me move it all to where I can see it from the deck or a window. He gives me a hard time about my baby monitor and going out to check on them several times a day, but if I could look out the window and see nothing is amiss that would take care of that problem! Pattyhen- I'm glad the hawk didn't get anyone! It's amazing how these birds have instincts about certain sights and sounds. My turkeys keep an eye on the sky constantly, and they have been able to tell since birth that some sounds are "dangerous" and they have learned all the various turkey sounds and behaviors of communication without having a parent turkey. To me, that is amazing. Guineapeeps- you have joined this thread right when I need you most. My keets are due 9/11 and this is the first time I've had a broody guinea raise them so I'm not sure what to expect. I am wondering if she will keep them on her nest for the first few nights and then try to take them back to the coop or what! I am feeling a bit overwhelmed. I am happy to have her raise them but can only imagine what discord her protectiveness will cause. Dmontgomery- I agree with you about the looks of the guineas, though I can appreciate their wierdness in a modern art sort of way. I love the light contented sounds that they make. I wish they did it more because its so beautiful, and in such contrast to the other grating calls they have. Here are a few pictures of Polly I took today. She and her hatch mates will be three weeks old tomorrow.
My Guinea Hens usually stay on their nest for a few days once the keets start to hatch, to allow for all the eggs to hatch out. Once, I had a hen get off the nest and move the babies before all the eggs were all hatched. In that instance, I candled the remaining eggs and incubated the viable ones. Once they were hatched and dry, I placed them back with the mom. All of my hens have hatched their eggs in the coop, so I can't say whether most hens will take their keets back to the coop if hatched outside the coop. My guess would be that she would take them back to the coop if that is where she is used to living and also where the food is.....they have pretty good instincts in that regard. If not, you could gently herd them to the coop, but be prepared for the wrath of the mother Guinea! They are crazy protective of the little ones! I have been attacked a time or two for getting a little too close! I am certainly no expert, but have let my Guinea hens hatch their own for the past 3 years and have had pretty good success with it. I found mine to be extremely good mothers. The only thing I really keep an eye on is the weather. The mothers will take the little ones out to free range when the keets are only a few days old and will not always make it back inside if it starts to rain. So, unless it is warm and dry outside, I will keep them locked in until the babies are a few weeks old and a little stronger. Good luck with your hatch and keep us posted on how it goes!
 
guineapeeps - what is the size and height of your wheelbarrow and do you have it in a secluded place in your barn? I'll be moving mine to a new coop over the next month or two and thought if I had one in the new coop, they would get used to it being there rather than add it in the spring and have them react like it's an enemy from another planet.

Sun - not a question related to Guineas, but what kind of trees have you been planting this summer and how are they doing now that we've had some rain? Always touch and go that first year with new trees... looking at those pics again and you have gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous keets. Incredible color variations. You must be pleased with that since that was your goal.
 
guineapeeps - what is the size and height of your wheelbarrow and do you have it in a secluded place in your barn?  I'll be moving mine to a new coop over the next month or two and thought if I had one in the new coop, they would get used to it being there rather than add it in the spring and have them react like it's an enemy from another planet.

Sun - not a question related to Guineas, but what kind of trees have you been planting this summer and how are they doing now that we've had some rain?  Always touch and go that first year with new trees... looking at those pics again and you have gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous keets.  Incredible color variations.  You must be pleased with that since that was your goal. 


I saw you asked that before and I forgot to answer. When we bought the property we had to cut down two cedar, a holly, and a pear tree that were diseased (cedars) or nuisances. We don't like cutting trees down and the back half of the property is pretty bare anyway, so we've been working on replacing and adding trees. So far we have planted some dogwoods, a weeping willow, two pecan, and a pin oak. I'm wanting to also plant a magnolia and maybe a mimosa tree but I have mixed feelings on the mimosa. Most of them are doing okay. We planted the weeping willow in a low spot that tended to get soggy and it loves it. I had to put some bricks around one of the pecans because the older guineas decided it should a dust bath spot. That one is near the coops and not doing so well. Since it's on the back of the property it enjoys very intense full sun. Our soil here is very sandy and well draining so the moisture doesn't hang out long but in the upside if it hangs in there and gets its roots going it will reach water quick. If you dig in our yard you'll reach water in about 3 feet. I found that out when we buried one of our cats a couple years ago.
 
Thank you for letting me know. We put in trees regularly and I'm always looking for new ideas. In fact one of my friends was bemoaning the fact that her husband used to buy her flowers, but doesn't do that anymore; I told her my husband didn't buy me flowers either - he buys me TREES!

I try to go with ones whose natural habitat is where we are since they seem to grow best. Our environment is pretty harsh with a lot of wind and heavy clay soil - wet in some spots. Even the "naturals" have difficulty at times. We were thinking about a willow tree or river birch next - in an area that's very wet and would eventually provide a privacy screen from the road. It's a good place for a "dirty" tree.

I think I'm going to have to consider a tree that is a fast grower for some shade on the south side of the coop. It's heating up to 10+ degrees over the outside temperature on a daily basis. We are installing a greenhouse fan, so that will help move the air, but a deciduous tree and some cheap indoor shades will keep the sun out in the summer and allow the sun to provide heat in the winter (that will be a good thing).

Hope all your trees (with the exception of the pecan you mentioned) are doing well. You have a nice selection there.
 
guineapeeps - what is the size and height of your wheelbarrow and do you have it in a secluded place in your barn?  I'll be moving mine to a new coop over the next month or two and thought if I had one in the new coop, they would get used to it being there rather than add it in the spring and have them react like it's an enemy from another planet.

Sun - not a question related to Guineas, but what kind of trees have you been planting this summer and how are they doing now that we've had some rain?  Always touch and go that first year with new trees... looking at those pics again and you have gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous keets.  Incredible color variations.  You must be pleased with that since that was your goal. 


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Here are a few pictures of my wheelbarrow (first 2 pictures...please excuse how dirty it is). I actually stumbled on it for a nesting box by mistake. A few years ago, I was cleaning the coop with the wheelbarrow and left it in the coop for a day or two, then noticed that my Guinea hens had layed eggs in it. I cleaned it out, replaced the eggs and they have been laying in it ever since. The wheelbarrow is about 3 feet high. The inside bucket area where they lay is about 22"wide x 28"long x 12" deep. I have it located in a secluded corner of the coop. I have put a bigger wheelbarrow that is similar in the coop but they will not use it as a nesting box. They certainly have a mind of their own and absolutely will not do anything they don't want to do!
The last picture is of a plastic storage box (Rubbermaid type container) with a lid that I cut a hole in that 2 of my other hens use for a nesting box. I call it the "portable nesting unit" (or PNU)because I have had success moving several of my hens in it when they have hidden a nest outside of the coop. (I posted this on a different thread). If anyone has had trouble with this issue, here is how I currently do it:
If I can find the nest, I shoo the hen off, then quickly put the eggs in the container (with straw in the bottom) and place it directly on top of where the nest was. Then I cover the container with grass and weeds so it is hidden and looks somewhat like it did prior to disturbing it. If the hen has already gone broody and returns and lays in the box, then I wait until after dark to retrieve the nesting box. I move it by covering the opening with a towel and put it in a completely dark coop to keep her from coming out during the night. At times, I have carried the box out to where the hidden nest was each day and back into the coop each night if she won't stay in the box in the coop. I've lost a few hens to predators when they have a hidden nest so I put a lot of effort into finding and moving them, if possible.
Oh, these crazy, quirky, birds certainly keep me on my toes!
 
Thank you for resending it to this thread. Those are great ideas, but you never know what will work with those quirky hens.
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At least we have a couple of options to try here.
 
I really like the rubbermaid container idea. I have a feeling I will need to use that next year. Right now both are laying in relatively safe spots. The pearl one is laying in the brush/burn pile, I have found. It has grown quite huge because a chicken must have planted a tomato plant there so we haven't wanted to burn it lol and now the guinea is taking advantage of it.
 

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