Gun Owners and Non-Gun Owners should come to a Meeting of the Minds

[pips&peeps]

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It CAN'T be the ashtray! Have you tried to find an ashtray lately??? It's as hard to find as ammo for the gun!

That's true - so it was the butler with the candlestick!

I personally favor the lady in the Hitchcock film that did it with a frozen leg of lamb, then served it to the police investigating.......

 

[warmfuzzies]

That sounds like something I would do....



"Here officer, have a plate of evidence!"

 

[NYREDS]

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Right. We had an election and that danger is now past.

Interesting how perceptions can differ. From where I'm sitting it appears that our rights and our Constitution have never been so threatened.

 

[horsejody]

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So a woman living in certain middle eastern countries that can be killed by a male family member because she was raped has as many rights as a woman born in the US? There are countries where woman have no right to drive a car, own property or vote. Governments strip people of rights all the time. The Constitution makes it illegal for our government to strip people of certain right. Long live the 2nd Amendment!!

 

[gypsy2621]

I must havemmissed something in all the pages I read, I am not seeing any arguments here, What I am seeing though is well thought out, concise thoughts and opinions.
No one HAS to own a gun, Its a choice some choose to make.
Everyone has the right to disagree.
I disagree with some of the statements made but I will respect the fact that they are opinions and beliefs.
The one reason this thread has been allowed to live as long as it has is because everyone has been civil with everyone else opinions.

When some one says some one isnt educated , it isnt a slam meaning the person is stupid , all they are saying is if you educate yourself to a particular subject you are more likely to understand where someone else is coming from.
I just explained a situation I found my self in when I purchased a used hand gun from a Shop.
The Shop Owner never told me the trigger had been modified. It had a hair trigger , meaning any movement will fire the gun.
I was holding the outside of the trigger guard when I sneezed and the gun fired. it was pointed to the ground no one was hurt. BUT it could have been one of those horrid accidental shootings we all hear about.
I imediately had my husband send it back to the factory to have a factory Pull put back on, meaning it takes 5 lbs of pressure to fire that gun.
It scared the ever living Wee out of me and to this day I can not look at that particular gun the same way. IT SCARED me that bad.

Does this mean I would be against owning a gun , no it hasnt made me anything but more respectful of the firearms.

 

[hikerchick]

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I think people who live in other countries would beg to differ.

Give me an example. Show me what basic human right is not universal. It is basic Logic, if it is a right it is universal. The government does not give or take away rights. They are God given.

Someone listed a group of countries where citizens cannot own guns. Clearly, gun owning in not a right in that country.

I don't believe everyone everywhere enjoys the same rights. Isnt' that why people are fighting to keep the ones that they have?

If someone can take the right away from you, clearly, it is not inalienable.

 

[warmfuzzies]

They CAN take the rights away, as in I could kill you, thus take away your right to be alive.

That does not mean that you did not have the RIGHT to be alive, just that I was not concerned with what your rights were.

Same principle. It is SO simple. Rights are rights. If they were not the same for everyone then no human would have any rights except those which were granted to them by their government.

The founders of this country said INALIENABLE because they did not believe THEY were granting those rights, but that they were simply a part of being alive. A part of being human.

If you give anyone the power to give you your rights, you also give them the power to take them away.

I will never GIVE away my RIGHT TO LIVE. Whether it means sustaining life, through raising my own food, or saving life, through defending it with whatever means possible. (Guns are not the only option, just the best. You can also use all of the aforementioned TOOLS to defend your life. Candlesticks, paperweights, etc.)

 

[WalkingWolf]

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Sounds like you learned a lesson the hard way, lucky the outcome was not a bad one. Anybody and everybody before taking on the responsibility of gun ownership should be acquainted with all safety rules. One of those rules is before operating or purchasing a firearm is a full safety inspection. You should have never purchased without testing the trigger pull on a unloaded firearm preferably in a loading barrel or bucket of sand. Every store or shop selling firearms should have one.

This is the same responsibility before purchasing or operating a motor vehicle or any other device, vehicle, or machinery. Education is the key to safety not banning. When in the military a full safety inspection is done every time you receive a weapon from the armory, and return it. This is each and every time even if it it the same weapon, on the same day, same hour whatever.

The responsible thing for the government to do for firearm safety is bring education to the young as the CMP still does but is not allowed in schools anymore. Just like sex our young should not be getting firearm education from TV.

 

[karl lutz]

i spoke earlier speaking of police they are not always there or respond fast enough. I speak from experience, having been mobbed by a gang of agressive violent men I will not mention enthnicity. I fought my way back to the house,my wifes friend called police. It took 20 minutes for them to respond. In the meantime the aggressors broke out windows yelled racial slurs about my mother ,and If I had not of scuffed some of them up real good would have been inside I am sure. By the way the police had to put on bulletproof vests before they came and that is why they took so long. Now I say guns are good.

 

[Buster52]

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Right. We had an election and that danger is now past.

Interesting how perceptions can differ. From where I'm sitting it appears that our rights and our Constitution have never been so threatened.

I have never had more confidence in their complete protection. Far as I know, this is the first president who was an expert on constitutional law.

Wish y'all would calm down about it and stop buying up all the ammo, too. I can't even target practice any more because bullets are so dang expensive and hard to find. Have to save 'em for them 'yotes.