Gun people question..

[rebelcowboysnb]

you're saying if we were unable to use our hands to operate a gun, would we still have a gun? no. i guess not. why would you need that, who would hurt someone unable to shoot or stab first or back?

No the question is would you still carry a automatic if you had to have help manipulating the slide or would you use a revolver.

By the way, The disabled are victims of assault, robbery, rape an murder at far grater numbers then non disabled when you allow for population.

 

[Bullitt]

By the way, The disabled are victims of assault, robbery, rape an murder at far grater numbers then non disabled when you allow for population.

So true. Criminals always target those who are weaker and less able to fight back. Women and those with disabilities most of all should carry a gun to protect themselves from predators. And I don't mean coyotes.

I read an article in the paper a few years back. A young man attempted to rob an older gentleman in a parking lot. This man, who was a Korean War veteran, was not intimidated when the young man came at him with a gun. The older man pulled his revolver out of his car and began shooting, and the young man was last seen running away. The lesson is to arm yourself in order to protect yourself.

 

[ChicksterJo]

I would probably get/use the revolver after reading Bullitt's post. I just started learning about how to handle guns, and the first thing I decided to shoot was a Mosin Nagant. Ok, not great for a 5'0 tall woman with weak wrists. But we don't have handguns, so that's the best thing I've got against someone trying to hurt me lol.

 

[zzGypsy]

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I would probably get/use the revolver after reading Bullitt's post. I just started learning about how to handle guns, and the first thing I decided to shoot was a Mosin Nagant. Ok, not great for a 5'0 tall woman with weak wrists. But we don't have handguns, so that's the best thing I've got against someone trying to hurt me lol.

yeah, that's a bit much, and not very manuverable in tight spaces either! not to mention it's bolt-action so you might only get one shot... but hey, if they get close just hit 'em in the knee with it...

how does that thing kick? I've got a Schmidt-Rubin and it's a MULE! need a recoil pad for it - the metal buttplate *HURTS*. seriously, like being kicked by a mule in steel shoes.

I teach a lot of new women shooters, best advice I can offer for a small person with weak wrists - look for a handgun that REALLY fits your grip - one that doesn't shift AT ALL in your hand when you shoot it. might not be the smaller grip, I find I do better with a bigger grip than a smaller one, that's what I can control best. so you need to figure out what gun you can hold on to most effectively. that'll let you use the strength you have. second thing is look for one with a recoil that is more of a push or shove than a snap... I find my glock .45 is a more comfortable recoil than my .38special revolver - not that the .45 has less recoil, but the motion of the recoil is different. I can shoot the .45 all afternoon and my wrist doesn't hurt. half an hour with the .38 and I'll feel it in my wrist. I think it's the snap - quick action and more upward rotation of the gun. combine that with a grip I can't secure as well, and it hurts more.

try shooting different guns, see what feels most natural to you... might not be the one you expect it to be (or the one your hubby/BF tells you it should be...

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I'm looking forward to trying the chiappa Rhino - it's got the barrel lined up with the bottom chamber instead of the top chamber, so it puts the recoil force more backwards in line with your forearm bones, and there's less upward rotation to affect your wrist. soon as I can find one locally to shoot, I'll let you know what I think. it seems like a good solution for folks with weaker wrists.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Leverage... The glock barrel is right above hand level. The revolver has a higher barrel giving it a leverage advantage twisting your wrist.

 

[zzGypsy]

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Leverage... The glock barrel is right above hand level. The revolver has a higher barrel giving it a leverage advantage twisting your wrist.

right. that's why the glock pushes more and the revolver snaps up more.

that and the large frame glock fits my hand better than the revolver... I've got good sized hands for a 5'6" gal, but I can't close my fingers completely around the glock - nonetheless, it's shape, size, angle all work for me and it's the one I *like* shooting best - because its the most secure in my grip, and the angles are such that I don't have to adjust anything to get the sight picture, it's just naturally right there.

on the revolver, I can get my fingers all the way around the grip, but it's just never as secure. I'm thinking about changing out the grip for some fatter packmayr grips and see if I like it better after that.

interestingly, my ruger p89 is a smaller grip and that one feels pretty secure too... but I think it's because the angle of grip to barrel is a little wider, so I have to tip my hand down a bit to get the sight picture, and I suspect since that engages another set of forearm muscles it helps add some stability to my wrist.

it's funny, I'll shoot my hubby's desert eagle 50 - big push, no snap - but absolutely *hate* shooting his derringer .22 - no kick at all, but I just can NOT figure out how to grip the tiny thing and keep it in one position.

 

[ChicksterJo]

zzGypsy, thanks for your advice! Yes it kicks like a mule. I shot maybe 4 or 5 rounds and I called it quits. My shoulder couldn't take it anymore. It can actually hold 5 rounds at a time, but I was putting them in one at a time. I may be getting a Marlin 30 30 if I cannot get my hands on my fiance's Marlin 60. We will get a handgun someday, just don't know when lol. We were in a gun shop the other day and a customer comes in asking the owner about handguns that would be good for his grown daughter (over 18). The owner made a comment that infuriated me. He told him that his daughter should probably stick to practicing with a .22 rifle.

 

[Bullitt]

I just started learning about how to handle guns, and the first thing I decided to shoot was a Mosin Nagant. Ok, not great for a 5'0 tall woman with weak wrists. But we don't have handguns, so that's the best thing I've got against someone trying to hurt me lol.

So, do you carry your Russian rifle when walking on the street? I am sure no one will try to mess with you if you are carrying a rifle. Hopefully you can get a pistol and carry it.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

He told him that his daughter should probably stick to practicing with a .22 rifle.

Heres my opinion on that.

Clean but about a rape.

 

[zzGypsy]

zzGypsy, thanks for your advice! Yes it kicks like a mule. I shot maybe 4 or 5 rounds and I called it quits. My shoulder couldn't take it anymore. It can actually hold 5 rounds at a time, but I was putting them in one at a time. I may be getting a Marlin 30 30 if I cannot get my hands on my fiance's Marlin 60. We will get a handgun someday, just don't know when lol. We were in a gun shop the other day and a customer comes in asking the owner about handguns that would be good for his grown daughter (over 18). The owner made a comment that infuriated me. He told him that his daughter should probably stick to practicing with a .22 rifle.

D'OH!
I *hate* being treated like a girly in a gun shop...

that's how I got my first shotgun though... we'd been burglarized, and it scared me when I thought about what might have happened had we been home. so my then hubby and I went to get a home defense gun. guy behind the counter looked at me and said to my hubby, and said, "sure, I can sell you a 12 gauge, but if she's going to be shooting it you'd better get the 20 gauge. it's more of a girl's gun" rrrrrrr. about that time I said... "we'll take the 12 gauge. Pump. Magnum."

ok, I'll admit it wasn't the easiest gun to learn on. and actually I never did get to like shooting the magnums in that, they hurt, but it turns out I'm pretty good on the 12 gauge, much better trap shooter than my ex. or my current hubby (who's a competition handgun shooter). I'm not too shabby at sporting clays either.

the .22 is where I think new shooters should start, rifle or handgun. and I do have a 16 and a 20 gauge I use for starting new shotgun shooters, then once they're ready for bigger gauges, move on up to what works best for you. so maybe that's what the shop owner meant... but then again... if it was a "girlies need smaller gauges because they're girls" kinda attitude, that would definitely set me to having a more *useful* conversation with the dad.

maybe get me a new shooting student too.