Hatchery didn't send my birds

[chicknmania]

I felt like I was being called out tbh. But I can see why you would with the disinformation everywhere on every topic. The OP wasn’t talking about McMurray but I mentioned it as a possible reason because it is just that. As people have said McMurrays outbreak was weeks ago but they didn’t tell the public until some time after because they were (understandably) dealing with the affects. Whether it was true or not (which people have backed me up), AI can happen to almost anyone and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, never mind if I support a hatchery by buying their birds. Metzer is a very reputable company (one that I have and would purchase from again despite my feelings about hatcheries in general). That being said, AI is a possibility and one that maybe requires some patience and understanding if we’re just all speculating causes for this situation anyways. All the OP can do is wait for a response from them anyways. Could be the order got lost… or could be a lot worse.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Recently though, on our Next Door app someone said she worked for the USDA and that the virus was only in "winged animals". "Winged animals"??? I asked her if bats were afflicted with the virus then. After several days of her apparently doing research, she replied "no".

Location of employment is no assurance of qualification to opine on the subject of the employer's business.
- A more honest answer, and all too infrequent. Hard to make good policy when those holding themselves out as experts - or at least, "qualified to opine" - so frequently aren't.

 

[Winter Creek Coop]

It may have to do with the Bird Flu pandemic. You could just call and ask them. Personally, there's no way I'd be getting any new birds right now from anywhere.

Same here. Closed flock for now. I needed new stock so we are hatching a couple dozen.

 

[chicknmania]

Here it is on the database:

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Their farms are not all in the same county as the actual hatchery.

Oh, ok, that's why I missed it probably.

 

[chicknmania]

Location of employment is no assurance of qualification to opine on the subject of the employer's business.
- A more honest answer, and all too infrequent. Hard to make good policy when those holding themselves out as experts - or at least, "qualified to opine" - so frequently aren't.

Yes, obviously.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Same here. Closed flock for now. I needed new stock so we are hatching a couple dozen.

^ this is where I've been for the last two years - hatching my own, culling out unwanted genes.

Eventually, I'll need to bring more birds in, but I started with such a diverse flock, there was (and is) no immediate danger of driving my birds into an evolutionary dead end. Still deciding on what to bring in next, but like the *idea* of redcaps and welsummers. Still have years to decide.

 

[DarJones]

I asked her if bats were afflicted with the virus then. After several days of her apparently doing research, she replied "no".

HPAI is for Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza where the key word is "Avian". Bats are mammals, not Avians. Influenza has been known to cross species barriers many times over the years so even if it does not normally affect bats, it is still possible for bats to be infected in which case humans are far more likely to be infected. The flip side of this coin is that Covid19 is thought to have originated in bats. We really need a way to reduce the number of endemic viruses infecting animals that can also infect humans.

 

[Kiki]

Where did you get that information? We monitor USDA reports every day and I haven't seen anything about McMurray having an outbreak; also there's nothing on their website or in their voicemail, and there certainly would be if that were true, unless they've resolved it already...and that wouldn't seem possible either. I don't order from them, but I'm sure they'd appreciate it if they didn't lose customers because of potential false infomation.