Hatchery quality vs. Breeder quality

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The dirty cheats!
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LOL, yeah, I know. (Of course, I guess it's nothing to laugh-out-loud about.)
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Almost all hatcheries in the USA are concerned primarily about one thing: quantity. Forget quality. The more birds they sell, the more money they make. It doesn't matter to them whether or not their Orloffs are actually just Ameracauna crosses, or whether or not their Ameracaunas are Easter Eggers, or whether or not their Rhode Island Reds are commercial hybrids. The almighty dollar is their idol, and quality is a threat to their graven image.

Hatcheries usually do not exist to preserve chickens, or even to necessarily promote chickens. They exist to make money.

There is at least one exception I know of. Sandhill Preservation Center is a small hatchery that works hard with what facilities it has to preserve purebred, rare poultry. Their birds are not perfect (no hatchery bird is), but they are usually purebred and thereby serve as fair representations of the breeds they sell.

However, that's the only exception I know of
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Absolutely right Gresh. We are called to be stewards of all creation. That would include livestock, etc., right? So we as breeders should try to preserve the best, most honest stock possible. But it's not just the hatcheries. The odd breeder has no repeat business. I can think of at least two. One sold us 13 'Araucana' chicks. 'All hens'. 4 EE hens; 6 EE roos; 1 White Leghorn roo, 1 d'Anver/EE cross, and 1 Faverolle/EE cross. I like what's happening to the Araucana breed. No really.
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She looks to be a descent R.I. Red.

Not to get off subject but,
Either he head/neck feathers are to dark for he body or (what I think) her body is to light for her head/neck feathers. Her head/neck feathers should be the same color as her body.
She also looks to have a bit of a twist in her tail but that might be the way she is standing.
As for breeding her if she does not have a twist in her tail I would say breeder her..

Chris
 
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Hmmm? ..... breeds and genetics are integral to egg laying and behavior. Professor Dryden, who was generally considered the foremost poultry breeder in the world at the time of his death in the 1930s, spent his entire career breeding birds for egg laying and temperament. Many of the buildings on the campus of Oregon State University were paid for with the proceeds from the sale of breeding stock from Dryden lines. Things have not changed much in the world of agriculture as far as the importance of genetics in utility birds.

Perhaps we need to have a separate discussion area for Breeds, Genetics, and Utility? Just a thought.

Egg laying was not the discussion topic here. It started with how hatchery quality and breeder quality differs in looks. Not egg laying
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You guys need to take your debate to the PMs before the mods shut this down. Most people would love to know the actual differences without having to sift though all the debate garbage.

X2 I love this thread.
 
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Thank you, I have had good luck with this line of Reds.

When you see Hatchery and Exhibition Reds side by side there is a huge difference.
Average hatchery R.I. Red hen weighs around 3 or 4 pounds the average weight of my Exhibition Red hens is 7 lbs. and my roosters weigh around 9 to 10 lbs.

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These 2 girls are pure Ameraucana.
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/IMG_2919.jpg

i notice that these aren't super red in the comb, yet look like mature birds... do they ever get 'red'.? My young cockeral has been crowing for 2 months now, and my pullet isn't much to look at yet in terms of maturity... I was told she would begin to lay in about Dec-- but she's not nearly big enough, I don't think to be close to POL...

They are blacks from Jean Ribbick.
 
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She looks to be a descent R.I. Red.

Not to get off subject but,
Either he head/neck feathers are to dark for he body or (what I think) her body is to light for her head/neck feathers. Her head/neck feathers should be the same color as her body.
She also looks to have a bit of a twist in her tail but that might be the way she is standing.
As for breeding her if she does not have a twist in her tail I would say breeder her..

Chris

Probably just the angle for the tail. Not sure why the photo looks like her neck is darker. I have never noticed that before
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How could that happen? Is it normal? Is she mixed or something?
 
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These 2 girls are pure Ameraucana.
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz145/new2chooks/IMG_2919.jpg

i notice that these aren't super red in the comb, yet look like mature birds... do they ever get 'red'.? My young cockeral has been crowing for 2 months now, and my pullet isn't much to look at yet in terms of maturity... I was told she would begin to lay in about Dec-- but she's not nearly big enough, I don't think to be close to POL...

They are blacks from Jean Ribbick.

Yes, they are old pics from before they started laying. I don't have any current ones.
 

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