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[JJMR794]

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neosporin=people...blue coat/iodine tincture/furzone= animals...using any drug "extra label" on animals isn't a good idea unless you are cleared to do so by a vet.The theory behind not using neo is the animal has the potential to ingest enough of the salve to cause internal problems. If the bird is being pecked, then surely another bird has it beak on the treated bird...Possibly "eating" enough of it to be a problem? I don't know but, in my book, it isn't worth the chance especially because Some animals are slightly more valuable than quail....but thats JMO...and what do I know...

WELL SAID. THE ONLY TOPICAL I USE IS BLUECOTE. PERSONALLY I HAVE SEEN NEOSPORIN COLLECT ALL KINDS OF DEBRIES AND CRAP... ITS A GOOPY SAUVE, GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT CAN STICK TO IT.... AND AS A PROFESSIONAL HEALER OF HUMANS I CAN TELL YOU IT SUCKS ON HEALING US TOO AS COMPARED TO MANY OTHER PRODUCTS AVAILABLE.​

 

[Buttercup Chillin]

Like I said Vet approved. Snake Bit Dogs Foot. Dog got a shot and was on antihistamins and antibiotics and Neosporin on foot wound morning noon and night while it healed. Open wound - not covered. It took over 2 months, she nearly died from a poisonus snake bite and probably won't have a long life because of it. Vet works with all Farm animals. This dog is the lickingest thing out there, must be part Basenji, grooms like a cat all the time. So, ya she was going to be injesting a lot of it and he knew it.

Told me to have Neoporin on hand for them and he knew I had chickens too at that time. Also Antihistamine (Benadryl) for the animals in case of another snake bite (to keep swelling down). Gave me dosage for each of my dogs (cat is indoor). Told me if it happened again, to give the Benadryl first, then call him.

I actually got yelled at for not having Benadryl on hand in poisonous snake country and not giving it to her before bringing her in. I didn't know and he assumed for years that I did. Now all new patients get a leaflet from them on what to have on hand for such emergencies when time is of the essence. (Everyone with animals should know this). So I am passing it on.

Sorry beckyschicks, didn't mean to go on like that but that instance is when Vet told me Neosporin was perfectly safe to use for my animals. But I have only used it on the dog. I never thought to use it on the chickens or quail. I have used it on the ducks though. Basically its like Bag Balm, used either for people or animals and I know different people with rather expensive Parrots and Horses that have used it. Talk about expensive animals. Oh, I wish.

 

[Stellar]

Works for some and doesn't for others

I haven't had a problem with neosporin and I studied pre-vet on the side of poultry

Just picked out poultry at the end......

 

[beckyschicks]

Well to settle this, I used neo on him and he is seperated. Would have use BlueKote if he was going back in but, I decided to make him his own pen tonight. I won't be using neo again as it was to hard to spread on his little head. Don't think I got much on him anyway. He's doing good too. Drinking and moving around. Haven't seen him eat yet though. I contacted the lady I bought him from and asked her if I could buy some girls from her. Don't know if she has any but will hopefully find out. I did talk to my girlfriend that is a vet and she said that I could use neo, but in moderation. She agrees that it is a great collector of dust and crud. But has some good quailities. She did admit that she doesn't have experience with quail though. So I gave it a try. Thanks for all the help. Is anyone know of a breeder in WI?

 

[()relics]

You missed it....Once more even simpler...Ingest enough broad spectrum antibiotic, see neosporin, and you have essentially created an animal that is an incubator for antibiotic resistant micro organisms , see MRSA. Now you have a potential carrier animal, with potentially antibiotic resisant organisms that are waiting to potentially infect the rest of the world. Topicals made for animals are formulated so they cannot be ingested. Neosporin is for people. It is formulated under the assumption that Normal People won't lick it off themselves.

 

[Buttercup Chillin]

Don't know where you are but TCollins (Ohio) and ( not a breeder but hay) just hatched out a bunch of A&M's. Actually in middle of hatch and I know he just ordered some eggs for another hatch.

Its a stab in the dark but if you can't locate any?

PM him just in case. Who knows, he may know of someone close there.



edited to add:
Found one in Racine - sherwood-gamefarm.com Lists A&M's on list of birds.

 

[Kwartel]

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You missed it....Once more even simpler...Ingest enough broad spectrum antibiotic, see neosporin, and you have essentially created an animal that is an incubator for antibiotic resistant micro organisms , see MRSA. Now you have a potential carrier animal, with potentially antibiotic resisant organisms that are waiting to potentially infect the rest of the world. Topicals made for animals are formulated so they cannot be ingested. Neosporin is for people. It is formulated under the assumption that Normal People won't lick it off themselves.

If I had a quail that could lick neosporin off of the back of its own head, you'd be seeing us all over the network news shows.

 

[Stellar]

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If I had a quail that could lick neosporin off of the back of its own head, you'd be seeing us all over the network news shows.

 

[()relics]

my birds seem to want to rub their heads or neck or dust bath after I do anthing to them. Also I notice them picking at whatever they find in the cage and dust baths. So I can conclude, I guess, that anything they rub off they would most likely check out and probably eat. Now I do watch my birds closely, as closely as I watch the rest of my animals, so possibly others have missed this event or possibly as well my birds are unique....Ever see a bird preen its feathers? think they leave the backs of their heads Unpreened? Anyway do as you please with your birds or your anythings...Far be it from me to tell anyone they are wrong...I just stated the facts...Maybe one of the traits you are breeding for is antibiotic resistance...but that would be your business. But you may want to include that fact in your advertisements when you sell eggs or market birds. I just cringe when someone advises an extra label treatment/dosage "because it is OK and my birds/animals have never had a problem"..antibiotic resistant organisms would be hard to see, the earlier dog example, and harder to "get rid of", mersa as previously stated, plus why not use something that is made specifically for animals. Its Not Really A Big Deal...good enough for me

 

[Kwartel]

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Far be it from me to tell anyone they are wrong. Maybe one of the traits you are breeding for is antibiotic resistance...but that would be your business.

I don't keep my birds in conditions where they are constantly being injured. The one bird that I've had injured was immediately after I started with quail and had bought a group of adults that had more males than I needed. He got a single application of neosporin at 9 o'clock at night after all of the stores were closed. He quickly formed a scab and healed just fine and I doubt the tiny amount that he may or may not have eaten has turned him into a trojan horse of mutant germs. I would think that the medicated feed that many people give their birds every day would be a bigger issue. Some swear by it and others think it is the root of all evils. MRSA comes from our own bad choices in human health care made over a course of many years with millions of human patients, not from eating tubes of neosporin.

All said, an ounce of prevention is worth a gallon of neosporin or bluekote or whatever other broad spectrum antibiotic and wound protector bird owners choose to use. The moral of the story is to keep an eye on your birds, identify trouble before someone gets hurt, and act immediately to stop it if something does. The OP acted quickly to keep her birds safe and is doing everything she can to provide them the safe and happy environment that they need to thrive without getting on each others nerves. Something that we should all strive for in our flocks and elsewhere.​