Okay, So some of you guys know I am working on buff colored old english. The trouble is finding birds with the color. So I was trying to figure out what I could outcross to, Buff Leghorns are ideal, but finding them in bantam are tough. I could go with a buff Minicora, again, those are tough to find too. SO im left outcrossing to wheaten, red pyle and black old english, maybe some silver whites if I can get some. But that's about 4 generations of crossing back to get the color. So i got to thinking, what if I outcross to seramas? Jerry, the original importer and one of the top breeders gives his culls away. I was thinking about emailing him and see if he has any buff colored birds, I realize that Seramas do not breed true, but having a bird with a buff pheontype is closer then a bird with out it. I dunno, What do you experienced breeders think of this idea? At the end of the day, Its going to take a lot of work mo matter what I do, so trying can't hurt?