Help! Color Confusion

[tiktilaok]

Hello guys! I need your opinions/expertise on the COLORS of these 2 roosters. Attached below are their photos. Please shed some light on this matter. Your inputs would definitely be of great help... Thanks in advance!

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Looks like they’re blue tailed buff barred. Not pure for the barring gene, though, as they only have one copy of the gene (pure barred roosters would have two).

 

[turkey girl 0964]

Whatever they are they are very handsome!

 

[tiktilaok]

Looks like they’re blue tailed buff barred. Not pure for the barring gene, though, as they only have one copy of the gene (pure barred roosters would have two).

Im just really clueless---how could one say that a chicken is not pure for the barring gene, and if a chicken has one or two copies of the gene? I have read several articles and forums but it still confuses me.

 

[tiktilaok]

Whatever they are they are very handsome!

Thanks a lot! Modesty aside, i too find them gorgeous!

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Im just really clueless---how could one say that a chicken is not pure for the barring gene, and if a chicken has one or two copies of the gene? I have read several articles and forums but it still confuses me.

It depends on how wide the white bars on their feathers are. Basically, a single factor (one copy) barred rooster is darker, while a double factor (two copies) rooster is lighter. Hens can only have one copy of the barring gene, so if a hen is barred you know she’s pure for it.

Single factor black barred rooster (with some red leakage) [not my picture].

Double factor black barred rooster.

Barring on buff/red is a bit harder to determine. Actually, looking back at your pictures, rooster #2 could be pure for barring (meaning he has two copies of the gene).

 

[tiktilaok]

Final

It depends on how wide the white bars on their feathers are. Basically, a single factor (one copy) barred rooster is darker, while a double factor (two copies) rooster is lighter. Hens can only have one copy of the barring gene, so if a hen is barred you know she’s pure for it.

Single factor black barred rooster (with some red leakage) [not my picture].
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Double factor black barred rooster.View attachment 2624289


Barring on buff/red is a bit harder to determine. Actually, looking back at your pictures, rooster #2 could be pure for barring (meaning he has two copies of the gene).

Finally! Now, things have never been clearer.... All thanks to you!!!
One last question, if i may...... What color classification could these 2 roosters be under? Crele? Cuckoo?

 

[tiktilaok]

I am also thinking of breeding them to buff orpingtons hens. Will i get barred chicks as well?!

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Final

Finally! Now, things have never been clearer.... All thanks to you!!!
One last question, if i may...... What color classification could these 2 roosters be under? Crele? Cuckoo?

Are they purebred? If so, what breed are they? (I’m assuming Orpingtons?)

I’m asking because different breeds have different names for the same variety/color. Blue tailed buff barred or barred blue tailed buff would be the correct name no matter breed, since it’s genetically accurate. However, there’s probably a shorter name depending on what breed they belong to.

To explain barred blue tailed buff.
This is black tailed buff (not my picture).

Your roosters have a blue tail instead of a black one, making them blue tailed buffs. They also have a barring gene, which is why “barred” is added on, making barred blue tailed buff.

I am also thinking of breeding them to buff orpingtons hens. Will i get barred chicks as well?!

You will get barred chicks. If you use a single factor barred rooster, he will produce 50% barred chicks (with the males being single factor) and 50% unbarred chicks. If you use a double factor rooster, all chicks will be barred, though the male chicks will still be single factor barred.

 

[tiktilaok]

Yes they are orps