Help. . I am NEW and I think I am cursed with Tragedy

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  1. 2boys6chicks

    2boys6chicks New Egg

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    Hello Everyone
    1st year with chickens and I seem to be cursed with chicken tragedy. Here's my story.
    I'm Tara, 38, I have 3 wonderful children, girl 17, & boys 4 & 8, live in Citrus County FL. (West coast, 90 miles N. of tampa)I am blessed with approx. 4 acres. I was born and raised in Philadelphia, until my early 20's my back yard was a 10 X 10 concrete slab with the nearest grass being about 6 blocks away at the local park. So I truly cherish the gifts that I am able to give my children and I never take any if it for granted. I definitely wanted to give my kids as many different animals as possible but honestly didn't think too much of chickens. My mom hates birds so I didn't give them much thought.
    We found an awesome little dachound mix one day and we all fell in love . Long story short the dog was great except one day he got into the neighbors yard and sadly took out half their flock. I didn't understand how they could be so upset over chickens but I without thought knew I had to replace them . While doing so I fell in love with those little chick's and brought 2 pullets home in March of this year. After some research and not knowing how amazing a chicken coop could be I started building. After about 3 weeks I finished and then bought 6 more baby pullets (1 turned out to be a Phoenix rooster), and also acquired another hen that was not wanted. So we are so excited we now have a Phoenix rooster, and 8 hens, all different breeds all who are about 15 weeks old that we allow to free range. I was so amazed at how smart and extremely amazing my little flock was.
    Then we had our 1st tragedy Sonny our rooster was gone and whatever took him left a trail of his feathers leading to a small game trail in the back of my property. I am a little freaked so I start putting my girls in the coop a little earlier and letting out a little later. A few days later while Me and my hubby are working In our garage 2 hens go missing, this time the killer not only left tracks but pooped in my coop. I use sand in the coop and there was perfect prints of a mommy bobcat, a baby, and her racoon partners. We couldn't believe they did this while we were only 50 foot away. We try to be even more careful and start shooting our unwanted visitors (got a few coons) but still lose 2 more hens.
    So I now have only 3 hens left a Phoenix and my 1st 2 hens which are Golden Comets, they will no longer sleep in the coop , they sleep in a tree on My neighbors property, I've locked them in the coop quite a few times but it's no use.
    So now it's Aug. And my 4 yr old wants more chick's so I decide to extend my run and maybe not let them free range. So we get 6 straight run Plymouth rocks and 2 buff orpington ducklings. With in 1st few days my son accidently stepped on 1 and 2 more of the chick's just died. Then on the 1st day I let the 3 chick's and ducklings into the run my neighbors rooster who has claimed my little flock his, killed 2 of the chick's in about 3 seconds before I had a chance to say stop. So Now With My 3 Tree hens, 2 Ducklings And 1 chick I am totally ready to quit, especially when 1 morning I let them out around 730 and about 750 I walk my son to the bus stop, I am back by 805 and that quick something got the last chick.
    So this takes us to about 3 weeks ago when I also realize my Phoenix is missing but no feathers anywhere. To cheer me up my daughter bought me a 2 day old silver laced cochin bantum, he is the sweetest thing ever . I take him with me everywhere, but he really needs a buddy, but I can't find any that young anywhere unless I buy 6 of the same from a chain store but I still need some chicks, So 2 weeks ago Monday I decided to try again but no more free ranging. I find someone selling 8 week old chick's and decide to get 3 but when I get there I find 40 8 week old chick's all stuffed into a tiny cage, many if them are bleeding from fighting and just not having enough room. . So using every last penny I can find (I don't carry cash) I end up with 6 . 2 white cochin, 2 red see link, 2 barred rock. They are awesome, they cleaned up well and are very friendly. All is well, I even find my Phoenix, he went broody on me and is under my house sitting on 6 eggs. I start to feel relief, but just to be sure I buy some rabbit fence and put it 2 feet up all the way around my run and that very night after I put them in the fence after playing but before I lock them in the coop . . Tragedy again . This time the most awful. 3 of my young ones have been pulled thru the fence. It was horrible, my son was hysterical. And 1 of them is still alive but her leg is completely gone. I inspect the tracks, tag team again. Coon and bobcat tracks. Augggghhhhhh. Oh I forgot the same so day I convinced the mgr. Of rural king to let me but 2 chick's instead of 6 so now my little baby has a silver laced Wyandotte and a Rhode Island Red friend, both 3 day old pullets. So this all happened on friday, 5 days ago and I am completely and totally fruatrated. But for the second time I decide to completely redo everything. . I have made my run about 3 times the size. I bought 8 foot chain link and started with that, I dug and buried it about 8 inches in the ground. I then put rabbit fence around inside 2 foot up, I put 1/4 inch hex around outside 2 foot up, I then got tons of dirt and made a mound around outside bottom and rolled a little barred wire around outside top and bottom. It is completely roofed with 1/4 hex and I put some stakes I found around bottom. I hung fishing string with bells all around cause so wine told me it scares stuff away. I am at my wit's end I will do anything. Then to top it all off just ad I am finishing up this huge project I hear my sitting hen stirring, the eggs should be hatching any day now since she has been sitting for at least 17 days now but when I get I very there I see a huge snake in her nest. I yell for my hubby who come running over just as the snake rolls from under the house wrapped around my hen 3 times. I immediately lose it and begin to cry hysterically but my hubby saved the day and although he ended up hitting my poor hen with a flash lite I. The struggle, but he killed the 6 foot 4 inch yellow rat snake that had her. So wow. Thank you so so much to whoever has read this. I know it was long but I just wanted someone to see how much I have been thru and how hard I am working. I also would love any adbice, suggestions, comments. Anything from those with experience. My neighbors have been great with helping me and I adore them but would love to hear from others. They have also lost about 7 hens during this time period but haven't in the past few weeks. I am the last house, so they have woods behind but I have them behind and on side. Thanks again for your time. I have been reading things I. This site since I got my 1st chick and have gotten some great advice and ideas.
    Almost forgot to give the good news. The chick that lost her leg is doing great. I've been cleaning her womb and applying triple antibiotic, my older hens and the neighbors rooster will not stop attacking get so I have been keeping her separate from the rest most of the day and hope that once she gets stronger they will leave her alone. We are waiting patiently for our chick's to hatch and I pray they all make it from under the house. So as of now this is my crazy set up. My 2 7 months old hens still free range, but sleep in a tree but come over to the coop to eat and lay, the 2 ducks and 4 young hens I let out while I'm outside, in the house I still have my 3 week old cochin and 2 5 day old chick's and just waiting on momma and babies. This is more stressful than parenthood.
     
  2. mtngirl35

    mtngirl35 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    [​IMG]I am so sorry to hear about your losses. It sounds like you really love your chickens. It sounds like you are taking the needed measures to protect your flock. I use chain link wrapped in wire mesh to protect my girls and so far it has been effective. I live in the country at the edge of woods also and we see a lot of coyote, possum, and racoons. I did find a huge snake trying to find its way in one day, too. A lot of my neighbors that free range have lost chickens to hawks this year. I do not free range at all. I would like to now that some of the neighborhood dogs are gone but I'm afraid to. Nobody in this neighborhood keeps their dogs put up but me and I have seen them carrying dead chickens before. Our area is also a drop-off area for unwanted animals so we usually have strays running around. You could set some cage traps for the wildlife. Check your coop for cracks and holes and fix them if you find any. Never use chicken wire. It keeps chickens in but doesn't keep anything out. I hope your little injured chick pulls through. Hopefully some more folks here can chime in with some more advice. I wish you lots more luck with your flock going forward.
     
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  3. drumstick diva

    drumstick diva Still crazy after all these years. Premium Member

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    You are just too nice a person. Tell the neighbor HIS rooster is killing your birds. To keep him home or you will be having him for dinner. There is no reason to put up with this.

    From the sound of it, nothing should free range. You need a run with a secure top etc., and get ahold of those birds that come for meals and then go into the trees. In a roofed run, they will be stuck there. Roosting in trees makes them easy pickings for raccoons, owls, etc. They luck will run out sooner or later. Do you know any hunter/trappers that would be glad to go after your bobcats, etc.?

    Sounds like you need electrified fencing to keep away your more persistent predators. You should also post on the predator threads for more advice than I can give you. I don't think you are cursed - you just live in a very high predator area and need major guns to protect your stock. By major guns I mean, concrete base for coop and runs so NO digging underneath. 1/4" hardware cloth where other wire is so no grabbing birds and pulling thru fences.
     
  4. Ol Grey Mare

    Ol Grey Mare One egg shy of a full carton. ..... Premium Member

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    In total agreement with drumstick diva on this.
     
  5. 2boys6chicks

    2boys6chicks New Egg

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    The strangest thing is that none of us have ever seen the cat, I actually call her ninja cat, we set up a camera so we can watch from inside and I've spent many nights up all night and never caught a glimpse, just her perfect prints in the sand. I agree about the free ranging, I guess the bottom line is unless u are willing to sacrifice some it is just not possible. I know that I need to get my girls from the trees and I have a few times and half way thru the day I feel bad for them after listening to them cry for hours and I let them out. My main focus right now is getting the babies u. When they hatch and then I'll get them all locked in for good. Any advice on that? Do I take the babies away? Keep them inside just like when I buy them? Here are some pics of everyone enjoying this beautiful day[​IMG][​IMG]
    the 1st pic is my Phoenix hiding under the house, I counted at least 6 eggs . 2nd pic are the babies, the 1 with the feathers on the feet is little baby and he (not sure he or she) I'd 3 weeks old, the other 2 are midnight, and lil red they are a week old today, 3rd pic is the 4, 10 week old, the black and white In the very front is "peggy" (short for peg leg, at 1st I would freak out every time mu hubby called her that but it's kinda stuck) u can kinda see her sores, and then there are the Ducks . I am a little disappointed with them. . I've done everything the same and they are not friendly at all. [​IMG]last pic is cupcake who had a twin sister sundae and our neighbors younger rooster Oreo
     
  6. liz9910

    liz9910 Overrun With Chickens

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    [​IMG] x3 on @drumstick diva s advice, you need hot wire, and 1/4 inch hardware cloth not chain link or chicken wire. No free ranging and please get those other chickens and lock them up asap.
     
  7. 2boys6chicks

    2boys6chicks New Egg

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    I just realized only half my pics showed up[​IMG][/IMG][/IMG]
    the last pic is sonny my rooster that was taken from us. . The pic is not good but he was gorgeous and he was only 15 weeks old so he would have only gotten bettwt
     
  8. islandgirl82

    islandgirl82 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oh I'm so sorry for all you and your family have been through.

    x4 on drumstick diva's advice. Every last word.

    I would also be putting your broody in a pet crate or nursery area with those eggs before they hatch. She's an easy target as well and as soon as those babies are up and moving, they will be too. I'm actually amazed a raccoon hasn't gotten her already.
     
  9. One Chick Two

    One Chick Two Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Covered run. Realistically... your area just has too much local wildlife for freeranging. And if you don't cover the run, eventually the hawks, ravens and eagles find your chickens, then there will be really be trouble. As Drumstick Diva mentioned, add Hardware cloth to the bottom of reenforced fencing so snakes can no longer get in. That was probably what was spooking the hens. Chickens whine and beg. They just do. After they eventually become accustomed to their reenforced digs they should stop if you don't let them out.

    The neighbor's rooster should not be mixing with your flock as he's shown he can't be trusted with little ones. Some roosters are just wonderful with babies, even not their own. Silky roosters are great with them. We have an OEGB roo who raised a juvie flock of RIR on his own, and he was amazing.

    Predators are a constant issue we all have to take precautions for. Hope things get better!
     
  10. Wyandottes7

    Wyandottes7 Overrun With Chickens

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    Welcome to BYC! [​IMG]We're glad to have you.

    Drumstick Diva and One Chick Two have give you some good advice.
     

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