Help! Massacre, need revenge

[2 many chickens]

I highly doubt beating a cat or locking him in a cage for days is going to change his thinking. He's a cat, they hunt. He did what his instincts told him to do. You beating him and locking him up, is cruel. Rehome or release the cat else where. That is the answer to your problem.

 

[Shamo Hybrid]

I highly doubt beating a cat or locking him in a cage for days is going to change his thinking. He's a cat, they hunt. He did what his instincts told him to do. You beating him and locking him up, is cruel. Rehome or release the cat else where. That is the answer to your problem.

He never said he beat his cat, just hit him a few times to remind him that he was in the wrong. Sorry if you think that is cruel, but that's how animals learn..... that's how animal mothers teach their young.

 

[Elsveta641]

I highly doubt beating a cat or locking him in a cage for days is going to change his thinking. He's a cat, they hunt. He did what his instincts told him to do. You beating him and locking him up, is cruel. Rehome or release the cat else where. That is the answer to your problem.

The cage is a custom built 5x4x4 foot welded wire monster my husband built me to use for planned breedings. It is inside the barn, dry and comfortable. Smacking around a pet with a dead chicken it killed isn't cruel either. I'd rather train the cat not to kill chickens then make him go elsewhere. He is my animal and his care and training are my responsibility. I personally think its cruel to give away an animal just because it has behaviors people dont want to deal with. He is not an idiot, he can and will learn.

 

[Elsveta641]

Hear me out..... can't it might possible be that the 2 'missing' cats are actually the culprits?!! They've gone missing because they've stashed the chickens somewhere else and having an all-you-can-eat buffet style feast!!

*edit* - Just read that I was right, that indeed it was your own very cats!

One of the missing cats was spotted at a neighboring farm, I think they both just wandered away. It was one who stayed that did the murdering lol

 

[2 many chickens]

He never said he beat his cat, just hit him a few times to remind him that he was in the wrong. Sorry if you think that is cruel, but that's how animals learn..... that's how animal mothers teach their young.

He said he beat it with the corpse of a hen. Maybe you should re read.
I don't agree with hitting animals but to each their own. I don't see how that teaches anything.

 

[sourland]

Animals have great difficulty connecting abuse with the reason for the abuse. Hit an animal while it is doing something wrong, and it might connect the two actions. Hitting it after it has done something wrong, and all it will know is that you are cruel. I have no problem killing when necessary - I have real problems with abuse, and there is a thin line between ignorance and abuse.

 

[2 many chickens]

The cage is a custom built 5x4x4 foot welded wire monster my husband built me to use for planned breedings. It is inside the barn, dry and comfortable. Smacking around a pet with a dead chicken it killed isn't cruel either. I'd rather train the cat not to kill chickens then make him go elsewhere. He is my animal and his care and training are my responsibility. I personally think its cruel to give away an animal just because it has behaviors people dont want to deal with. He is not an idiot, he can and will learn.

Your animal, do what you want.
Agree to disagree. If you think beating him with dead animals is going to work, good for you. High five.

Animals have great difficulty connecting abuse with the reason for the abuse. Hit an animal while it is doing something wrong, and it might connect the two actions. Hitting it after it has done something wrong, and all it will know is that you are cruel. I have no problem killing when necessary - I have real problems with abuse, and there is a thin line between ignorance and abuse.

Thank you!!!
I agree a million percent with your post.

 

[Elsveta641]

I think the ignorance lays with folks who believe animals like cats and dogs learn the same way as human children. Negative reinforcement absolutely works on cats. You are basically telling me the cat is too stupid to equate my displeasure with his chicken prey to his killing it. He is not. He has been free to go about his business (only in the "cruel" cage overnight) for a couple days and not a single chicken has been touched. I lost a pullet to the heat this morning and when the cats saw me remove it from the barn he ran away, apparently unsure if it was one of his collection. He does indeed understand the reason for his punishment and has apparently learned from it. To prevent him from backsliding, I simply scold him when he is showing interest in the birds, and he leaves. Hes also getting a little extra food and attention to curb his boredom. You can think what you want, but cats are not untrainable stupid creatures who cannot learn. And a 12lb tom being spanked with a dead chicken weighing maybe 2lbs is far from cruel.

 

[Folly's place]

If your cat actually has decided to kill and transport chickens, punishment after the fact won't fix his behavior. Instant negative feedback DURING the bad behavior might matter to him, but nothing after the fact will relate to the joy he feels during the hunt and kill. If he's actually the culprit, rehoming him to a chickenless place, not nearby, is the alternative. Many rescue groups are out there, and with full disclosure, maybe another home can be found for him.
Did you catch him killing a chicken? Is it possible that he's taken over another critter's stash? Of course he'll be grad to eat chickens, and probably kill chicks, but most cats won't take on big birds.
Mary

 

[Folly's place]

At least he's avoiding the birds in your presence, a good thing.
Electric poultry netting or fencing fixes many problems with ground predators!
Mary