Help me decide on a stallion to breed my mare to! Update #120

[GalloFino]

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Of course a lot of people actually are breeding horses for meat/human consumption, they just don't realize it ("Oh, but the slaughter houses in the US were closed down!") or they kid themselves that what they're breeding is so special that it will never end up in the slaughter pipeline.

 

[michickenwrangler]

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Of course a lot of people actually are breeding for meat/human consumption, they just don't realize it ("Oh, but the slaughter houses in the US were closed down!") or they kid themselves that what they're breeding is so special that it will never end up in the slaughter pipeline.

Let me rephrase that:

Unless you are purposefully breeding for meat/human consumption.

A rancher makes his/her living off selling steers for slaughter. Ergo, in order to stay in business they HAVE to breed. A locavore who raises meat rabbits for their own consumption HAS to breed rabbits in order to eat.

I just don't understand the logic of the OP having an obligation to breed her mare if she's willing to sit on the foal for a few years.

 

[georgialee]

Because the market will most likely be flooded in the next 3-5 years. I have an edge now b/c I own a mare who is heterozygous for tobiano and bay. If I have a foal that is solid I WILL be able to sell it within a year, no question. If I have a foal that is tobiano I will still be able to sell it within a year, but most likely for a lesser price.

Just because I'm willing to sit on a foal doesn't mean I want to. I was just saying that finances aren't to the point where I would put it in an auction.

 

[danischi24]

She doesn't HAVE to breed her mare, she WANTS to breed her mare & as it is her property, she is entitled to. She asked for advice about which stallion to use but I've been reading pages & pages of people talking about all sorts of other things. If I posted a topic asking which color was nicest out of blue or purple & people started talking about green or their dog, I wouldn't be impressed. This whole post is going so OFF TOPIC. Anyone ever heard of the saying not to give unasked for advice? I think it applies here. She's heard all the things being said & has decided to breed her mare so:

Back on topic: I like the first stallion & then the second.

 

[georgialee]

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Thanks

 

[Chickerdoodle13]

I think Falcon is gorgeous. I definitely like the short stocky/draft look of the vanners, and I'm even saddened by the more sporty look that Friesians seem to be plagued with lately. Then again, I like my horses on the stocky side...no matter the breed!

I think you have thought this out pretty well. Sounds like you will be able to provide for the foal whether you can sell it or not and that's the important thing. Truth be told, I doubt you'll trouble selling a vanner. They often sell before they hit the ground here...and even then they are selling for 10K+. Some of them have ATROCIOUS confirmation and yet they are still selling.

The problem with people against the breeding of horses is many of them don't believe in horse slaughter either. Getting rid of legal horse slaughter really messed up our market here in the states. There was a day (not too long ago either!) that scrawny, sickly, old horses would go through auction and get bought up by local slaughter houses. Now those horses either spend extensive amounts of time in a cramped trailer on their way to canada or mexico OR they end up getting shifted from home to home for the rest of their lives. As sad as it is to us humans, many times death is the more humane option. Too many times I've seen people buy up the poor looking lame horses that would have gone to slaughter five or six years ago just to realize they don't have the money to care for it's issues properly. Some of those horses will run through the auction house two or three times in consecutive weeks before the owner settles on a low price and sells to the meat buyer. It's really, really sad.

However, not everyone is into rescuing non-descript horses so there will always be a market (although sometimes small!) for well bred horses. My friends who breed show dogs NEVER have trouble selling their puppies and often have waiting lists. There is a huge difference between them and some backyard breeder though. They know what they are breeding for and they have done their research. They often put in more money then gain. Despite the number of dogs in shelters, there will always be people out there looking for their well-bred pure breeds.

 

[michickenwrangler]

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Edited because I couldn't find the post to back up my point.

She did say that NOT breeding her would be a financial loss, which, again, I admit that I don't understand completely.

Personally, I like Silver Fox, mainly because he reminds me of Conan's horse Thunder from the Conan the Adventurer cartoon show in the 1990s.

 

[GalloFino]

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LOL.

 

[cazyaniamllover]

number 3 he a cutie u should breed her with an Arabian

in opinan ur horse breed and arabians r one of the cutest love how u horse look

 

[georgialee]

I don't know if anyone is interested (and I don't want to start any debates again

), but after much (MUCH!) consideration, I chose Falcon to be her future mate.

Goldie is due to foal in the next week or so - I cannot wait! The color possibilities are interesting since she's EE and the stallion is ee. She has a 25% chance of buckskin, black, smoky black or bay.