help me out, what are these little creatures? EDIT: more pictures

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Old english game legs come it lots of color.......white,yellow,green,even black

This is true for Europe, but in the US they are only allowed to have white. Any other leg color is due to an outcross, except dark varieties (blacks, brown reds, blues) or varieties like Gingers, Red quils (some classify them as a dark variety), silver/golden laced (outcross, Campine as well) which have slate. If you have any other leg color and the bird resembles a Old english it is probably a American game in the US.

-Daniel.
 
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Hatches aren't Old English game.... They're American game.

Ok, been around them most of my life, but we just call them gamecocks... gamefowl
 
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Hatches aren't Old English game.... They're American game.

Ok, been around them most of my life, but we just call them gamecocks... gamefowl

Yep i know, I've been around them my whole life as well. I don't mean any disrespect to anyone who calls them Old English or anything, I'm just real big on the two not being confused. It muddies the waters of a lot of breeds. The confusion which often takes place in America also occurs in Europe where people cross American into their Oxford Old English, and due to that it seems to be very hard to find a line left intact that is pure.

I know very well that with gamefowl "purity" isn't of much importance, I just like to at least keep a few pure lines going as a lot of people do. The American X Old English is kind of like crossing a Cornish with an Asil, Cornish were developed from Asil true enough.. But they have other breeds in them and breeding them back to the Asil would ruin the Asil. Of course with the American OEG i would say they ruin the American game
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-Daniel.

ETA: I apologize to the OP by the way for the thread hijack.
 
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DT no problem, heck I dont raise any game but American. The lines are hard to be pure, like roundhead more than one family, Dad use to have Allens. I also try to breed pure lines, Like the Pumpkin Hulsey, One of my lines is light pumpkin, other is more the orange.

Dad alway had pure lines ,but crossed them to get better game
 
Not 100% but generally it seems pullets feather n the wings faster than cockerels. I just did a little test with some black australorps. I even went to the feed store and saw some straight run chicks and some pullets. The pullets all had loooong wing feathers all the way to their butt, while the mixed bin had long and short wing feathers. and they were all the same breed of chicks in the bins.
heres a link with kinda lousy pics but it helps> if you look at their wings the longer feathered ones will likely be pullets
also pullets have 2 distinct lengths of feathers on wings> cockerels this young will only have 1 length.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=311212&p=2

based on what I can tell by the wings, and giving this tricky little theory credit, I'd say both bantams and at least 3 of the turkin if not all 4 are girls. I dont know if the 4th turkin is a boy, I just cant clearly see it
 
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thanks for the INFO!!!

i hate that i have to care, but not supposed to have boys. even though i hear at least 4 different roos in four different directions around here. which is nice... i like to hear them... i don't get why people get so uppity when there are dogs barking obnoxiously all the time

I've noticed that the turken with the dark spot on it's head has a a weird lump on the right middle of it's chest...
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this seems the most rambunctious though and eats, poops, and drinks well... i dunno i'm going to have to post in illness thread i think with a picture.
 

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