Help! Pipped but hasn’t zipped!

Libraryhen

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This little one externally pipped about Tuesday night around 8pm. No real progress until yesterday (Wednesday) around 2 or 3. It is now noon on Thursday, she wasn’t making progress at all and from all of the threads I have read on here it said to help after 12 hours. She seems exhausted. I pulled some shell away that was already loose, careful not to touch the membrane. She doesn’t seem to be rotating at all. In the picture you can see the membrane is still covering a lot of her face and her beak has been in the same spot and she isn’t zipping. (The area where the membrane is not she did on her own yesterday and that was about it) she still chirps every now and then and I can see her breathing but I’m getting worried that’s it’s been almost 24 hours without real progress on her end and well over 24 hours since the initial pip.
I lost one yesterday who was zipping and then just stopped after a while. But another hatched last night and is doing great aside from occasionally standing on top of the one hatching!
Does she need more help or do I let her keep doing her thing?
 

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Since it hasn't hatched, and it's been over 24 hours, I would probably look into helping a little more. I usually get a damp warm cloth and rap it around the side of the egg lightly and on the bottom. this can help to moisten the membrane. The fact that she isn't rotating in the egg, from my experience, probably means that the membrane has dried a little to the chick somewhere. There is a chance that that's not the case, but I would guess it is. I also take the egg out and work on the shell bit by bit. I like to put the egg back for about ~30-60 min between when I'm working on the shell to give the chick a chance to calm down or make progress on it's own. sometimes just after "artificially" zipping the shell for them they can get out on their own. But the last time this happened to me I got all the shell of and the chick was left with a little membrane stuck to it's back that I then wiped off with the damp cloth. The times this has happened to me the chick never was quite right, usually had some defects of some sort that might not show till later in life. I don't think that has anything to do with me helping them hatch, they just probably were like that from the start and it's probably even why they couldn't hatch on their own. but I'm always happy when I can at least give them a chance at a good life.
Good luck!
 
This little one externally pipped about Tuesday night around 8pm. No real progress until yesterday (Wednesday) around 2 or 3. It is now noon on Thursday, she wasn’t making progress at all and from all of the threads I have read on here it said to help after 12 hours. She seems exhausted. I pulled some shell away that was already loose, careful not to touch the membrane. She doesn’t seem to be rotating at all. In the picture you can see the membrane is still covering a lot of her face and her beak has been in the same spot and she isn’t zipping. (The area where the membrane is not she did on her own yesterday and that was about it) she still chirps every now and then and I can see her breathing but I’m getting worried that’s it’s been almost 24 hours without real progress on her end and well over 24 hours since the initial pip.
I lost one yesterday who was zipping and then just stopped after a while. But another hatched last night and is doing great aside from occasionally standing on top of the one hatching!
Does she need more help or do I let her keep doing her thing?

Solid advice given above me. I take a slightly different approach at 24 hours I artificially zip them, in my experience (with the eggs that come off my KC) they are almost always mispositioned. Head is almost always stuck under a wing with a leg caught somewhere odd. and this point I usually get their wing and arm untucked, that allows me to peer in with a flashlight to see if they are still absorbing yolk. usually they are, I then lay them on something disposable so they cant scoot around on the grating in my lockdown incubator and let them absorb. By this point they are typically cold and tired so they will take a nap, once I see them start to struggle is when I help remove them so they dont Yank out the contents of their stomach. at that point I mix a paste out of flour and water to help clot the bleeding and stick them back in until the bleeding stops and they are mostly dried out. Then its off to the brooder. Ive done this many times so far I havnt lost anyone that way.
 
Assisting can get tricky but I would definitely be helping that little one out. Slow and steady. Remove the outer shell but not the membrane in the same manner that they would zip. I use a dental scaler because it fits nice in my hand and has a good sturdy point. Then put it back for warm up break. Then go around and part the membrane in the artificially zipped area. Put it back and see what happens. If it doesn't push out on its own then continue to remove some shell and put it back and wait and watch. If you see any blood, stop and wait for a while before resuming. I have had to complete 'hatch' and remove the whole shell before. If you need to moisten the membrane to make it come off the chick during the removing process make sure it is warm. A sterile saline solution works, but I am sure other things do too.

Malpositioning is usually the case and they can't get their feet where they need them. Sometimes they come out with strange leg formations but are still able to correct it themselves.
 
Assisting can get tricky but I would definitely be helping that little one out. Slow and steady. Remove the outer shell but not the membrane in the same manner that they would zip. I use a dental scaler because it fits nice in my hand and has a good sturdy point. Then put it back for warm up break. Then go around and part the membrane in the artificially zipped area. Put it back and see what happens. If it doesn't push out on its own then continue to remove some shell and put it back and wait and watch. If you see any blood, stop and wait for a while before resuming. I have had to complete 'hatch' and remove the whole shell before. If you need to moisten the membrane to make it come off the chick during the removing process make sure it is warm. A sterile saline solution works, but I am sure other things do too.

Malpositioning is usually the case and they can't get their feet where they need them. Sometimes they come out with strange leg formations but are still able to correct it themselves.

I agree, I deal with this issue in many of my KC ducklings, malpositioned legs, often bent at a funny angle but cleared up by the next morning almost always.

First season hen and her first couple of clutches (which started in January of all times) were small eggs.
 

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