help please!!!! Lethargic chick wont move etc. Splay leg also? HELP

[MakMurrayFarm]

Yeah, when I said I'd be pissed I meant I'd be pissed if he wouldn't give me a new baby. I wouldn't be pissed at all right now. Just really heartbroken. I want to know why my poor baby died as well. It's funny, because it doesn't change anything, but not knowing is just terrible. I had a baby hamster die of pneumonia, and I had no idea how she managed to get it. Vet said it could have been a million things. I've been so paranoid with my current one. I'm afraid to let her roam around much or get into anything because I'm afraid she'll inhale a little dust particle or something and die too. At least if I knew what caused the first one to die I'd know what to avoid.

I wish you luck on your journey as an aspiring breeder! It would be cool to be one of only a few in your entire state. That's special. Are d'Uccle your favorite breed? If you're going to be doing hatches you'll probably have more heartache to deal with unfortunately. Some of those little ones are going to pass no matter how hard you try.

I got some bantam cochins. I can't wait to see what they look like as adults. Most of my birds are going to be pretty small as adults (even the LF). The RIR and Australorp are probably going to rule the roost around here, lol.

I just sent him a message so we will see what he says. I will be very pissed if he won't replace this baby. You're exactly right, not knowing is almost worst than knowing. Sometimes you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. I guess this really upsets me because it was a porcelain that ive absolutely fallen in love with the colors.
They are my favorite breed as far as I know lol them and silkies. Ive never had any duccles and i seen them and knew i wanted that breed in my flock!!! They're just so gorgeous!!

Breeder just responded he said " I'm so sorry to hear that, I will replace it no charge "
So thankfully he has a heart, and will replace the baby.

What colors of the cochins do you have!? I love bantams lol!! I bet they will definitely rule the roost

 

[MakMurrayFarm]

Very sorry for your loss. You might want to check out this website for d’uccles:
https://www.meyerhatchery.com/productinfo.a5w?prodID=PDBBS

Do you think these will be quality chickens?

 

[Eggcessive]

No they would be hatchery quality chicks. But I have always had healthy birds from this hatchery.

 

[AmyJane725]

I just sent him a message so we will see what he says. I will be very pissed if he won't replace this baby. You're exactly right, not knowing is almost worst than knowing. Sometimes you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. I guess this really upsets me because it was a porcelain that ive absolutely fallen in love with the colors.
They are my favorite breed as far as I know lol them and silkies. Ive never had any duccles and i seen them and knew i wanted that breed in my flock!!! They're just so gorgeous!!

Breeder just responded he said " I'm so sorry to hear that, I will replace it no charge "
So thankfully he has a heart, and will replace the baby.

What colors of the cochins do you have!? I love bantams lol!! I bet they will definitely rule the roost

It was my favorite chick that died too. It's incredible how often that happens. I see threads all the time from people who lost their or their kids' favorite bird. Fate is cruel.

Oh good. I'm glad he's going to do right by you.

You said more should be hatching very soon, right? Soon you'll have more adorable little peepers.

I have white and "self blue" which is basically gray (or lavender I think. Not sure if lavender is technically a separate color from "self blue" but either way, they look like a cross between little baby penguins and dodo birds, lol.

 

[MakMurrayFarm]

Self blue color is so pretty!!!! How many chickens do you have? Fate absolutely sucks. Too bad there isn't a magic quick fix for these babies Yes Sunday he is supposed to have more hatching so i'm praying there will be some porecelain!!

It was my favorite chick that died too. It's incredible how often that happens. I see threads all the time from people who lost their or their kids' favorite bird. Fate is cruel.

Oh good. I'm glad he's going to do right by you.

You said more should be hatching very soon, right? Soon you'll have more adorable little peepers.

I have white and "self blue" which is basically gray (or lavender I think. Not sure if lavender is technically a separate color from "self blue" but either way, they look like a cross between little baby penguins and dodo birds, lol.

 

[AmyJane725]

Self blue color is so pretty!!!! How many chickens do you have? Fate absolutely sucks. Too bad there isn't a magic quick fix for these babies Yes Sunday he is supposed to have more hatching so i'm praying there will be some porecelain!!

Well, if he hatches like 600 of them there must be one porcelain one for you.

I currently have 15 babies. I originally got 11 babies with the intention of keeping 7 (the bantams were straight run, so I got 3 each of the white and self blue ones in the hopes of getting one female of each color). After my one silver spangled hamburd died I contacted the hatchery and they sent me a girl and a boy one (since I wasn't sure if it was the pullet or cock who had died) but they couldn't ship just 2 chicks, so I got two silver phoenixes and one extra RIR (mine had been sitting down that morning and I thought she was dying...after the SSH died I was even more paranoid than usual. The sitting was just more adult behaviors coming out, like preening and scratching/digging, so in retrospect I feel very silly, but oh well). There is a woman at my mom's work who wants all of my extra ones, so I guess I'm currently looking at keeping 8 birds, 1 rooster, 7 hens.

How about you? What is your flock composition like? I know you said you were planning on having several bloodlines to breed the d'Uccles. Are you planning on getting the chicks from multiple different sources?

 

[MakMurrayFarm]

Okay I'm SO freaking done. I am absolutely livid. Beyond livid. I'm literally so pissed and upset. This is the breed I've searched and searched for did tons of research found a breeder with gorgeous show quality birds. Lost my first baby less than 6 hours after I picked them up.. today's Saturday, I got 3 babies Wednesday night. Guess what.. now my mille fluer is showing same symptoms as last baby. Lethargic, doesnt wanna move etc. This isnt as bad as last baby RIGHT now but getting there. Chick is chirping and eyes opening but goes limp and is just laying there. I'm not a newby at raising birds in the brooder. What the hell is happening. I'm so upset and down. Is this breed not meant for me!? Is it the chicks!? The breeder !? WHAT.
I'm absolutely shocked this Is happening. I literally just got my polishs, mottled houdans , and silkies out of the brooder and they're thriving living in their newly built pen.
I'm so done. I dont even wanna message the breeder at this point. This is ridiculous. I'm so upset.

Well, if he hatches like 600 of them there must be one porcelain one for you.

I currently have 15 babies. I originally got 11 babies with the intention of keeping 7 (the bantams were straight run, so I got 3 each of the white and self blue ones in the hopes of getting one female of each color). After my one silver spangled hamburd died I contacted the hatchery and they sent me a girl and a boy one (since I wasn't sure if it was the pullet or cock who had died) but they couldn't ship just 2 chicks, so I got two silver phoenixes and one extra RIR (mine had been sitting down that morning and I thought she was dying...after the SSH died I was even more paranoid than usual. The sitting was just more adult behaviors coming out, like preening and scratching/digging, so in retrospect I feel very silly, but oh well). There is a woman at my mom's work who wants all of my extra ones, so I guess I'm currently looking at keeping 8 birds, 1 rooster, 7 hens.

How about you? What is your flock composition like? I know you said you were planning on having several bloodlines to breed the d'Uccles. Are you planning on getting the chicks from multiple different sources?

 

[MakMurrayFarm]

Well, if he hatches like 600 of them there must be one porcelain one for you.

I currently have 15 babies. I originally got 11 babies with the intention of keeping 7 (the bantams were straight run, so I got 3 each of the white and self blue ones in the hopes of getting one female of each color). After my one silver spangled hamburd died I contacted the hatchery and they sent me a girl and a boy one (since I wasn't sure if it was the pullet or cock who had died) but they couldn't ship just 2 chicks, so I got two silver phoenixes and one extra RIR (mine had been sitting down that morning and I thought she was dying...after the SSH died I was even more paranoid than usual. The sitting was just more adult behaviors coming out, like preening and scratching/digging, so in retrospect I feel very silly, but oh well). There is a woman at my mom's work who wants all of my extra ones, so I guess I'm currently looking at keeping 8 birds, 1 rooster, 7 hens.

How about you? What is your flock composition like? I know you said you were planning on having several bloodlines to breed the d'Uccles. Are you planning on getting the chicks from multiple different sources?

I'm going to reply to your questions and what not. I've just gotta get over dealing with this seemingly dieing chick.

 

[LynnaePB]

I'm so sorry about your babies!

I know the chicks are a little young to suspect coccidiosis but that behavior and the fact that now another has the same symptoms makes me wonder (it's contagious). Do the chicks have any blood in their stools?

I ordered some silkie chicks from cackle hatchery a few years ago, they arrived in great condition but after 2 days one started acting a lot like yours (lethargic, wouldn't open its eyes) we checked and saw it had some blood in its stools as well. The feed store was closed and we weren't able to get Corid (amprolium) until the next morning. The baby didn't make it through the night but we started treatment to make sure none of the others died and they never came down with symptoms. With coccidiosis I've heard once they start getting really lethargic it's hard to bring them back from that and they usually pass pretty quickly. Maybe someone else will chime in about the possibility of coccidia because if yours have it they'll need treatment to survive.

I never had issues with coccidiosis before or after that incidence, I have no idea why they got it (if it was indeed that).

Good luck with your little ones, I really hope your able to save your remaining babies.

 

[Eggcessive]

Maybe the breeder would give you hatching eggs to hatch yourself, so you know they will get a healthy start. Sorry that you are losing these birds. When I have recieved bantams in shipping, they tend to be a little more fragile the first 2 weeks, so I really concentrate on giving them NutriDrench, make sure they are eating and drinking well, and inspecting for pasty butt daily. I used to want a lot of more unusual or rare birds, but I quickly found that the ones I bought did not lay well, eggs did not hatch well, and those breeds did not live long. Some of the old fashioned breeds such as heritage RIR, were the better layers and their shipped eggs had much better chances of hatching. Now I just want hatchery birds who hopefully are carriers of disease from a breeder’s chickens, and who lay well.