Help sexing IB Pied and a silver pied please

Helen in the Desert

Songster
11 Years
Jul 27, 2011
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Palm Springs
Need help with sexing if anyone has any ideas at this point.
Flint was hatched about May 25th - trying to figure out how to upload the photos in a cohesive order...having to post in separate comments.
Birds are being hand raised by a friend of mine and she wants to keep a girl, so we are hoping at least one of these is leaning towards female. For now I think Frank is looking pretty girly. Have absolutely NO clue about Jesse. And the other two I'm not sure it's late enough to really tell.
 

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AND Jesse, a silver pied spalding hatched about May 10th. First pic is its neck at the top and between the shoulders.
 

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