HELP! Week-old chicks slowly dying

Missouri Chicken Chick

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8 Years
Jan 29, 2011
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I have raised many chicks in the past and never had a problem like I am having now. I ordered lavender orpington chicks and got them at the same time a group of my own chicks were hatching. The orpingtons arrived a day late and out of 15 birds, 3 had died in shipping. Not an hour after I got them home, another one didn't make it. When I got them home, I gave them some sugar water and the rest seemed to be doing fine. Three days later, however, another one died. Then tonight, when I last checked on them, one of the larger sized orpingtons had also died. Out of the chicks I hatched myself, 3 of those didn't make it (which has never happened to me before. Usually once they make it through hatching, I've never lost any after that.) Because I didn't have room in my normal brooder (a plastic tote I have used through 4 hatchings), I bought a heavy duty plastic tub from the feed store and put the chicks in there. I change the water about every 3 hours and give them fresh food twice a day. I checked everybody this afternoon at 3:00 and when I went to check them again at 6:00, that's when I found the orpington. I am wondering if the problem would be due to the fact that there are approximately 35 birds in the tub (which is actually quite large), so it gets dirty very quickly. I change it every day, but even that doesn't seem to keep it very clean. I tried putting paper towels down on the bottom, but they started picking at it and I was afraid they would eat it. The temperature stays consistent in one corner and they have the other corner they can go to if they get too warm. I have seen no panting or signs of overheated chicks. I am using a standard plastic waterer and sometimes the chicks walk in it, which causes some of the food that has been kicked out to get moist. Could the problem be due to wet feed? How in the world would you prevent that? The strange part is that one minute they seem fine, then all of a sudden they're just dead. Anybody have any possibilities as to what could be causing this?
 
I don't think it is the wet feed or the cleanliness. sounds to me that you keep them very clean. Mine have on numerous occasion ended up with wet feed, until I notice that is.
Could it be pasty butt or worms. Did you notice andy red poo, which would indicate worms? I assume that you check their behinds and make sure that no poop is stuck on them.
Could your feed be contaminated with anything?
That is all I can think of.
Hope you get to the bottom of this, before you loose any more chicks.
 
No pasty butts, thankfully, and no abnormal poo. I am starting to think maybe it's the feed. I think I am going to stop using what I've got and get a new bag tomorrow. So for tonight, I guess it's no food for the little guys. It's just very frustrating, especially since the lavender orpingtons are so very cute (and expensive). Thanks for the reply.
 
I would start them on Polyvisol without iron (baby vitamins) ASAP. It should give them a boost until you find out what is causing this. Are you sure they are not being trampled?
 
I always use a large dog crate when I have new chicks. The groove around the bottom allows for drainage and the metal grate door allows for ventilation/cooler areas for them to move to. heat lamp goes in back. It found that many times I would check them and after a couple days the chicks would be in the middle or closer to the door.

Plastic has amazing heat holding ability. When my son was younger I told him that if he ever locked himself out of the house, he needed to go snuggle down in one of the igloo dog houses. The warmth in one of those at 0 is unbelievable.

Hoping that you find out what is wrong quickly, just a thought, could heating the tub be burning off any toxins that could be lethal to your chicks, or could the tub be too heavy duty and holding too much heat? You did say it is a new tub that you haven't used before.

Hoping you find the answer quickly, Deb
 
Thank you so much for the advice. I have never used the Polysivol, but I will definitely give that a try, along with new feed. I think I read on some of the posts how much to use, etc. I will look it up and give it a try.

The tub itself is approximately 4' in length and 2.5' wide, which gives them plenty of room to get around without trampling each other.
 
After I read the post about the tub holding heat, I went to check and see how hot the bottom and sides actually were. The bottom where the light is was pretty warm, as well as the sides where the light is. The other end, however, is nice and cool. What you said about toxins, however, I am not sure about. Maybe I will just change out the whole thing tomorrow, as well as getting new feed and some vitamins. I will try anything at this point...
 
There doesn't seem to be a smell, but I did notice that it feels almost "sticky" which might mean the tub itself is part of the problem. I think I am going to move them out of there tonight. Again, not something I really thought about. I have always just used a plastic "tote", but it seemed a bit small for this many birds so I got something different... something I thought would be better. Maybe this is a good lesson in sticking with what works...
 
Have you found an answer?
I am having the exact issue. Mine are about a week now... all Delawares. the first was DOA, so I did not worry too much. On day three I lost a 2nd. and today a third. They are growing VERY well, I have been raising hens for about a decade, have not changed a thing. Very, very clean and warm. The two that have died since arriving were seemingly in excellent health just a few hours before I found them dead. It is frustrating! Absolutely no signs of illness. None. Plenty of space, I don't think trampling could be an issue.

The only difference was the supplier. I normally get them from Ideal through my local feed store but they were sold out until May, so I went with mail order. I do not want to start false rumors about the supplier I used...but I would like to compare notes with you privately if you have a minute.

Any and all opinions welcomed.

-Judy
 

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