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[HayleyCrum]

what is happening here! is this really a niacin deficiency

 

[Quatie]

Can it straighten it's leg out? If not, it is most likely a slipped tendon. Usually the hock joint is swollen and you will find the tendon to either side of the joint. You should be able to feel the tendon it is a slipped tendon. It will feel like a string under the skin on the side of that hock joint. Also, the hock joint is what most people confuse thinking it is the duck's the knee. This can also be caused by a niacin deficiency.

 

[HayleyCrum]

Can it straighten it's leg out? If not, it is most likely a slipped tendon. Usually the hock joint is swollen and you will find the tendon to either side of the joint. You should be able to feel the tendon it is a slipped tendon. It will feel like a string under the skin on the side of that hock joint. Also, the hock joint is what most people confuse thinking it is the duck's the knee. This can also be caused by a niacin deficiency.

okay so this can be fixed by providing niacin? if i get some at walmart while i wait for mine to come in for livestock how much do you think i should administer? for a pill

 

[Quatie]

okay so this can be fixed by providing niacin? if i get some at walmart while i wait for mine to come in for livestock how much do you think i should administer? for a pill

First determine if that is actually what is wrong. Did you feel that tendon?

And if it was caused by a niacin deficiency, niacin can unlikely fix it.

 

[HayleyCrum]

First determine if that is actually what is wrong. Did you feel that tendon?

And if it was caused by a niacin deficiency, niacin can unlikely fix it.

i didnt but earlier it did appear that it could be a tendon something in the foot kept going sideways. and if it was a niacin problem its, not reversible so they will always be like this now? i do 100% believe this is what it is but i was hoping ordered it and giving it to them would help. what do you recommend i do because i feel like there in pain walking like that and i have to pick them up and take them around

 

[Quatie]

The hock joint has a groove in the back in which the tendon sits. In a slipped tendon, it falls out of this groove. With a niacin deficiency, the reduced niacin can effect the proper development of the groove. When this happens the there is no proper groove for the tendon to sit in. Because the groove didn't form properly during development, it normally can't be fixed.

If it was not niacin, you can put the tendon back in the groove. Depending on how long it has been going on, it may be to painful to put the tendon back in place and will require surgery. What happens is the muscle and tendon are not properly stretched and growing, when out of place. So the muscle and tendon are shortened preventing the foot from stretching out. If you are able to get the tendon back in place, then you may need to wrap the leg to hold the tendon in place. I have used vet in the past. You want it tight to hold the tendon in place, but not too tight that you cut off circulation.

Treating with niacin would not be a bad thing, it will just not fix it. The best way to treat a niacin deficiency is with high vitamin b complex from TSC. You give them 1ml a day over a tasty treat.

 

[HayleyCrum]

The hock joint has a groove in the back in which the tendon sits. In a slipped tendon, it falls out of this groove. With a niacin deficiency, the reduced niacin can effect the proper development of the groove. When this happens the there is no proper groove for the tendon to sit in. Because the groove didn't form properly during development, it normally can't be fixed.

If it was not niacin, you can put the tendon back in the groove. Depending on how long it has been going on, it may be to painful to put the tendon back in place and will require surgery. What happens is the muscle and tendon are not properly stretched and growing, when out of place. So the muscle and tendon are shortened preventing the foot from stretching out. If you are able to get the tendon back in place, then you may need to wrap the leg to hold the tendon in place. I have used vet in the past. You want it tight to hold the tendon in place, but not too tight that you cut off circulation.

Treating with niacin would not be a bad thing, it will just not fix it. The best way to treat a niacin deficiency is with high vitamin b complex from TSC. You give them 1ml a day over a tasty treat.

they are full grown pekin and suddenly had this problem two days they have never acted this way before. the niacin is no longer available over the counter where i live so i had to order it on amazon but ive given them vitamin b over there food to see id that helps but like you said nothing seems to make it better. do you recommend i put them to sleep? i dont want them to be in pain everyday or is this something that isnt painful if it is niacin

 

[Quatie]

they are full grown pekin and suddenly had this problem two days they have never acted this way before. the niacin is no longer available over the counter where i live so i had to order it on amazon but ive given them vitamin b over there food to see id that helps but like you said nothing seems to make it better. do you recommend i put them to sleep? i dont want them to be in pain everyday or is this something that isnt painful if it is niacin

If it only happened a couple days ago then there is a good chance you can correct it.

 

[HayleyCrum]

If it only happened a couple days ago then there is a good chance you can correct it.

okay so do you recommend i feel around for this joint tape there feet and administer the niacin

 

[Quatie]

okay so do you recommend i feel around for this joint tape there feet and administer the niacin

http://www.poultrypedia.com/poultry-podiatry here is a good link on slipped tendons. It talks about chickens, but a slipped tendon is the same in all birds.

I would put the tendon back in place. Niacin would be a good idea too. My adult duck had a slipped tendon and I was eventually able to get it to stay. She still can't walk perfectly, but she still can get around just fine.